[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

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Mydgard6 wrote:
Maybe strange question for you all guys, but: Still play PoE for over a year, but never reached below lvl 87 so i never got any lvl 20 gem :D

Anyway: I am curious about reach lvl 21 for flame golems (don't have a golemancer this season yet as of not enough currency yet, prefer to start golemancer early on and avoid using spectres):

If i understand it right, i level a gem to level 20 and vaal 'em to hopefully get lvl 21 ... but: how can i increase the quality afterwards? If i will have to increase quality before vaal em it will cost way to much imho. Or is that not so important? I mean the quality means more life/damage for golems ... seems pretty important.

Hopefully someone can gimme a hint :)

Thx in advance


A level 20 skill gem and a Gemcutter's Prism can be sold for a level 1 gem with 20% quality.

So the best thing you got to do is : 6 flame golem in alt weapon => pex them until level, swap the on vendor for 6 level Qulity 20%, pex it again, and when they 20/20 vaal all and prey :)))
Finally Shaper defeated. 0 portal left, but i made it (i always die because of vortex balls killing me when i'm in Zana bubble shield). Below is my current gear. I need to improve a lot of things.



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kami_koi wrote:

So the best thing you got to do is : 6 flame golem in alt weapon => pex them until level, swap the on vendor for 6 level Qulity 20%, pex it again, and when they 20/20 vaal all and prey :)))


Not sure what "pex" means but anyway i know what you mean ... but this would take nearly forever and i probably never reach it :)
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Timmeh519 wrote:
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raniva wrote:
Thanks appreciate the quick response. I think its just a matter of me not willing to give up my skeleton build (spent quite a bit of C on jewels 6L etc). Maybe after I full level the gems and get a bunch more currency I can commit to the full Life to ES gear change along with the build passive resets.

From my testing the trash mobs melt but the bosses tend to take a long time (im assuming the things you discussed will likely remedy this solution). Do you think you are burning through bosses / guardians?


Yeah I killed Shaper with level 21 Flame Golems. Guardians are a joke. xD

There's plenty of damage for sure. I was looking into skele mages; looks fun.

Just got more interested in this.

(Sorry to get more to the point; you can burn bosses pretty quick.) xD

-Wonderful


Hey!

Yep, damage is plenty. I'm doing 89k per Golems and with just normal Skin of the Loyal, 21 Golem and Empower 4 you are looking at about 80k per Golem.

EHP is about 8,5k so plenty to tank most hits. Temp Chains makes non-boss enemies pretty much a joke, so you have to only care about bosses ;)


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anyone got the enchantment for vertex

Vertex mask

Flame golem increased damage

or

Temporal chain cursed effect

done a lot of uber with twice enchanted but no luck ....


Hi!

The enhancement are very rare as GGG added more skills and not that many players seem to be farming Vertex in lab this league.

You can take "Skittering Runes" to boost Curse Effectiveness 20%. With 20/20 temp chain, 20/20 blasphemy and level 4 Enhance in any Vertex this will give you 73% Temp Chains effect which is almost capped.


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Hey Mika.
Just wanted to say thank you. Level 80 (started 4 days before) and really enjoying it.
Maybe I will go for shaper for the first time in my life with this :D.


Hey and thanks for support ^^

Shaper is 100% doable. First propably Golems kill him while you are dead, but little by little deathless as you get better gear and learn to dodge dangerous moves ;)


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Maybe strange question for you all guys, but: Still play PoE for over a year, but never reached below lvl 87 so i never got any lvl 20 gem :D

Anyway: I am curious about reach lvl 21 for flame golems (don't have a golemancer this season yet as of not enough currency yet, prefer to start golemancer early on and avoid using spectres):

If i understand it right, i level a gem to level 20 and vaal 'em to hopefully get lvl 21 ... but: how can i increase the quality afterwards? If i will have to increase quality before vaal em it will cost way to much imho. Or is that not so important? I mean the quality means more life/damage for golems ... seems pretty important.

Hopefully someone can gimme a hint :)

Thx in advance


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A level 20 skill gem and a Gemcutter's Prism can be sold for a level 1 gem with 20% quality.

So the best thing you got to do is : 6 flame golem in alt weapon => pex them until level, swap the on vendor for 6 level Qulity 20%, pex it again, and when they 20/20 vaal all and prey :)))


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Not sure what "pex" means but anyway i know what you mean ... but this would take nearly forever and i probably never reach it :)



Hey!

The "Pex" probably meant exp = experiense. You cant raise quality after gem is corrupt so you have to corrupt 20/20 gems if you want to get 21/20. Good news is that quality on Golems is not super important. Life is nice but once Golems are high level they rarely die at all anyway.

You can put 6x Golem gems to level in alt weapon slot and corrupt them when they hit 20/20 as kami_koi said :)


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In the tree of talents, the +1 curse is taken. Which is better to use and how? Flammabilites+ Blasphemy Support+temp chain?


Hey :)

Bosses have terrible curse effectiveness. Guardian and Shaper have 80% reduction on curse effectiveness and you can roll even worse curse effectiveness in map mods, so stacking active curses is very bad investment. Temp Chains is so op that its used as best defense in the game with other slow effects such as Animate Guardians Hinder.

Second curse is cast by Animate Guardian on hit and doesn't reserve any mana from you. You can use that mana for extra aura, Mom or whatever you want to.

If you want to use second curse, I would use projectile weakness. It adds all Golems projectiles 25% chance to Knockback as well as damage. The knockback can be huge defense against melee enemies.


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Finally Shaper defeated. 0 portal left, but i made it (i always die because of vortex balls killing me when i'm in Zana bubble shield). Below is my current gear. I need to improve a lot of things.


Hey and GZ on Shaper kill! ^^

You still have lots of room to improve defenses from the gear, so in the end you can do Shaper deathless with enough practice ;)

You don't have "minions get xx% all elemental resitances" in any of your rare jewes so your minions resitances are not capped. I would get 2x 9-10% rolls on jewels and your Golems will be tanking like never before.
[3.12] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, All Bosses Down, Necro, Elementalist
https://tinyurl.com/y8k9fa2f
Last edited by mika2salo#7776 on Sep 9, 2017, 1:05:10 PM
Hey thanks for the guide! Im not sure if I should be using Animate Guardian since Im fairly new to poe and I probably wont know when to not summon him (you seem to disable him for most bosses anyway except guardians I believe?). Would something like orb of storm, chain support, curse on hit, elemental weakness be comparable to the animate guardian or the scorching ray variant? If it is, would another curse be more effective than elemantal weakness?

Good job on the awesome guide and thanks for responding :)
Last edited by MILEYONMETH#4291 on Sep 9, 2017, 4:36:47 PM
Double post
Last edited by MILEYONMETH#4291 on Sep 9, 2017, 1:48:35 PM
Hello :) can you tell me how do you have 8k es ?

I am only at 6200 at lvl 90 with :

Last edited by Seede56#3079 on Sep 9, 2017, 4:08:31 PM
What mods on maps do you typically avoid? No Curse ones?

As for guardians shapers etc. Do you just turn off tempchains or use something else instead? or still keep it on.

also thoughts on using convocation?
Last edited by raniva#6641 on Sep 9, 2017, 5:42:23 PM
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MILEYONMETH wrote:
Hey thanks for the guide! Im not sure if I should be using Animate Guardian since Im fairly new to poe and I probably wont know when to not summon him (you seem to disable him for most bosses anyway except guardians I believe?). Would something like orb of storm, chain support, curse on hit, elemental weakness be comparable to the animate guardian or the scorching ray variant? If it is, would another curse be more effective than elemantal weakness?

Good job on the awesome guide and thanks for responding :)


Hey and thanks for support ^^

Animate Guardian actually does much more than just curse enemies. It :
- Heals whole team 4% per sec
- Hinder enemies (-25% movement)
- Curses enemies
- Can maim enemies with maim support linked (-30% movement)
- Draws aggro away from you and Golems

Using AG needs practice and seeing yourself what it can deal with. Good thing is that AG gear costs only less than dozen chaos if not counting curse in hit gloves. keep trying and after few AG deaths you know what to avoid ;)

The setup would work, but need awfully lot of gems just to curse.

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Hello :) can you tell me how do you have 8k es ?

I am only at 6200 at lvl 90 with :


Hey :)

You need legacy items like Infernal Mantle and legacy elreon ring mods to reach 8k ES. You can very realistically buy these in standard as there are lots of them still in trade. On league 8,5k ehp is about max. With all tier 1 you can probably go to 9k EHP. However that is enough do to all map bosses deathless if you know how to kite dangerous moves.

If you can get life on rings, belt, etc it will boost also ES as you have the Presence of Chayula.


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What mods on maps do you typically avoid? No Curse ones?

As for guardians shapers etc. Do you just turn off tempchains or use something else instead? or still keep it on.

also thoughts on using convocation?


Hi!

I usually don't run hexproof as its the most dangerous mod. It can be done every time but needs to run bit careful and slower. Rest of the mods don't matter at all, all is free quantity.

I don't almost ever change the gems. I just let Temp Chain be on and run the map even if its hexproof. No mod is that dangerous that have to swap anything ;)

Convocation is ok. You can link level 1 instead of Tempest Shield for better clear speed but will lose 3% block chance. Also self-cast Convocation is ok if you find free slot for it.
[3.12] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, All Bosses Down, Necro, Elementalist
https://tinyurl.com/y8k9fa2f
Last edited by mika2salo#7776 on Sep 9, 2017, 7:13:22 PM
Wow, what a ride!!

Thank you soo much for the build man. Just killed shaper first time ever with 23l golems. Honestly the Minotaur and Chimera were harder than him. I went elementalist so i didnt have to worry about ele res.

Awesome, simple and very well written guide. Thank you one more time :D

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