[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

The problem with the amulet is that you don't have the damage from the specters so not sure how good it is?

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Krekel82 wrote:

The problem with the amulet is that you don't have the damage from the specters so not sure how good it is?

If you play golems + spectres, as elementalist or necro, you will lose dps as you lose spectres, so you will have to adjust the build to focus more on golem dps (especially by adding more harmonies for example).

The amulet is good actually, but not that much on hybrid spectre + golems :)

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Rtimusexile wrote:

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Besovskii wrote:

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Igorius wrote:

Thoughts on the new golem amulet coming up next league?

only for pure golemancer build based on elementalist

Why is that?

Regarding this build, this is because the necro will lose the ability to summon spectres.
Without spectres / with the amulet would still work actually dps wise, but it's not anymore the same build :) [/quote] Thats great, i want to lose the spectres anyways, pure golems for me.

I think I stick to the golems with spectres, seems the advantage is that you could get a nice helm that makes it a 6link spectre so you get good damage out of it.
Not to mention with delve you can level the spectres even higher so think it is worth it?

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Krekel82 wrote:

The problem with the amulet is that you don't have the damage from the specters so not sure how good it is?

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If you play golems + spectres, as elementalist or necro, you will lose dps as you lose spectres, so you will have to adjust the build to focus more on golem dps (especially by adding more harmonies for example).

The amulet is good actually, but not that much on hybrid spectre + golems :)

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Thats great, i want to lose the spectres anyways, pure golems for me.

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I think I stick to the golems with spectres, seems the advantage is that you could get a nice helm that makes it a 6link spectre so you get good damage out of it.
Not to mention with delve you can level the spectres even higher so think it is worth it?

Hello :)

In Delve league there may be possibility to get level 86 Specters quite early if you manage to buy level 20 Raise Specter and level 20 Desecrate early in the game as monster level could raise straight to level 86 if you just manage to survive. This makes Specs very strong early maps as you can get high level Specs without Shaper or guardian map access.

If you want to try out new Golem amulet, one of best possible ascendancies will be Occultist. With Elementalist extra 2x Golems are not that massive DPS boost after 8x Golems. Occultist gets stun immunity which you will be losing from changing Chayula with other ascendancies, and will also get ridiculous amounts of ES regen from minions kills. You can just drop all minion nodes from Occultist tree and take extra jewels sockets for Harmonies below Scion life wheel to maximize Golems damage.

Good idea would be to replace Controlled Destruction with "Minion ele res" gem as Golems will have very low elemental resistances without minion res node and potentially losing Necromantic Aegis.

I'm not looking for a dps boost for the full ten,id rather use eight for dps and two other golems. I want to avoid other summons besides for leveling at all cost. I figured the spectres would be strong but i have used them SO many time for other builds. Why do you feel there will be such a dps loss after eight anyways? there are also gloves with 1000% accuracy coming,and a major speed boost. Don't think i wont have a spectre in my alt gear just in case anyways :)

It is very simple to test, don't summon the golems and only use the spectres you summoned and see what the damage output is.
With the boots and the passive you summon 3 spectres, get a helmet with 2 minion mods and you have a 6link spectre.
So go into a red map and see how easily the spectres can clear it without the golems.
I think you would be surprised how much the loss is.

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Krekel82 wrote:

It is very simple to test, don't summon the golems and only use the spectres you summoned and see what the damage output is.
With the boots and the passive you summon 3 spectres, get a helmet with 2 minion mods and you have a 6link spectre.
So go into a red map and see how easily the spectres can clear it without the golems.
I think you would be surprised how much the loss is.

I am not using them because i have played them so much and want to use all golems, i already know they do good damage and will be even better if they can be summoned from a deep delve. And i did say "ill have spectres in my back up gear leveling", but only if the golems is a fail (they wont be).

hello.
Thanks for your build, i want to try it right now now ! :p But i'll wait the new league. Maybe there will be room for me in your Golem'o Guild, as i'm unguilded since ages! finding a good ingame community shoud be really nice too. (i miss that)

anyway, i think i'll go for Necromancer path and see what it can do. See you in few days i guess ;)

if in dvelve there are locations above 86 level then the spectres will be better scaled than golems.