[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

How important the Primordial Might is? I mean do we get it only to get the "Golems are aggressive" ?
I just saw on theuberelite' stream https://www.twitch.tv/theuberelite that scorching ray totem seems buggued,



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iGQ7iNCdRk&feature=youtu.be

Do you think that's the same thing for tuko vanguards ? that would explain why i feel they were bad when i was using them ? :(((
Dont suggest this build, very bad, especially for HC due to very low defences.
Necromancer with golems? Rly? When elementalist is so much better.
Curse setup, Elemental weakness instead of flammability? lol.
Curse setup as blasphemy auras, rofl ok.
2k hp 7k ES, hello chaos dmg (even if u max ur chaos res it wont help that much, especially with ur chayula).

"Cheap and noob friendly build to start with great tutorial"
And that is just a blatant lie.

Last edited by LeFizz#6290 on Mar 7, 2018, 7:36:46 AM
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LeFizz wrote:
Dont suggest this build, very bad, especially for HC due to very low defences.
Necromancer with golems? Rly? When elementalist is so much better.
Curse setup, Elemental weakness instead of flammability? lol.
Curse setup as blasphemy auras, rofl ok.
2k hp 7k ES, hello chaos dmg (even if u max ur chaos res it wont help that much, especially with ur chayula).

"Cheap and noob friendly build to start with great tutorial"
And that is just a blatant lie.




I guess someone just died in HC?
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LeFizz wrote:
Spoiler
Dont suggest this build, very bad, especially for HC due to very low defences.
Necromancer with golems? Rly? When elementalist is so much better.
Curse setup, Elemental weakness instead of flammability? lol.
Curse setup as blasphemy auras, rofl ok.
2k hp 7k ES, hello chaos dmg (even if u max ur chaos res it wont help that much, especially with ur chayula).

"Cheap and noob friendly build to start with great tutorial"
And that is just a blatant lie.




I for one is loving this build as league starter, don't have a fraction of the "needed gear" and are basically just walking around whacking stuff, as I did last league too. Think Mika mentions several times that he havent tested the build on HC so that one is on whoever wants to give HC a go. And ofc prices are high atm, its only 5 days since the league went live.
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Prismaa wrote:
How important the Primordial Might is? I mean do we get it only to get the "Golems are aggressive" ?


Hello :)

Primordial Might is quality of life improvement, but Golems can function ok without it. Main differences are :

- With minion speed and Might Golems wander further away from you and attack off-screen
This helps with clear-speed and you dont have to guide them as much with active skills like Storm Burst.

- With Might Golem keep attacking boss longer when you kite around
Without Might, Golems tend to follow you pretty close. If in boss fight you kite too far away they might decide to start following you instead of firing at boss.

However both problems can be worked around, so you can buy just Anima + 3x Harmonies for start. Then Might later when you get extra Currency.


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I just saw on theuberelite' stream https://www.twitch.tv/theuberelite that scorching ray totem seems buggued,

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iGQ7iNCdRk&feature=youtu.be

Do you think that's the same thing for tuko vanguards ? that would explain why i feel they were bad when i was using them ? :(((


Hi :)

I can't say that I have noticed any nerf of Specs totem. My boss kill time has been excellent even with Occultist and almost no minion damage nodes. At least they are working on the fix, so they might be boosted even more compared to my recent videos.


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Dont suggest this build, very bad, especially for HC due to very low defences.
Necromancer with golems? Rly? When elementalist is so much better.
Curse setup, Elemental weakness instead of flammability? lol.
Curse setup as blasphemy auras, rofl ok.
2k hp 7k ES, hello chaos dmg (even if u max ur chaos res it wont help that much, especially with ur chayula).

"Cheap and noob friendly build to start with great tutorial"
And that is just a blatant lie.


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I guess someone just died in HC?


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I for one is loving this build as league starter, don't have a fraction of the "needed gear" and are basically just walking around whacking stuff, as I did last league too. Think Mika mentions several times that he havent tested the build on HC so that one is on whoever wants to give HC a go. And ofc prices are high atm, its only 5 days since the league went live.


Hey :)

Build is pretty much opposite to SSF and HC builds. It relies heavily on traded gear and is balanced between damage and survival, not just survival.

I'm guessing you havent leveled build very far or might have not understood all mechanics like curse choices.

For your points :

- Elemental Weak and Flamma give almost same base ele res debuff. However Ele Weak scales with Quality and that way with Enhance extremely good compared to Flamma. 32% extra quality gives -8% to ele resists, which cant be squeezed out of Flamma.

- Temp Chain in Blasphemy keep safe agains off-screen charging enemies like Goat-men. Even pack of them lunging at you stops mid air when TC is at max -75%

- Once I have maxed Chaos res with 2500 HP, I cant rememer dying to chaos damage even once. The endgame chaos damage is very low atm and I would not recommend CI for chaos immunity over 2500 extra EHP.

- I leveled last league till lvl 92 and up to t15 maps with few ex worth of gear. Specters are good enough to carry up to T13 easily and Flame Golems can be added when enough currency is collected. It's not like league has to be started with full set of Primordial jewels.

- Prices for build items drop very fast in first weeks of league. Last league 2r2g2b Skin of the Loyal costed 20c after 1 week. I even maxed my chaos res and huge EHP with 5c rings and ammys, so Chayula is BIS, not required.

Hope you didn't die in HC using the build as it's not really ment tp played there. If you find good version of Golems with Elementalist that lives long in HC, please send it here so other HC players mey play Golems there also ;)
[3.12] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, All Bosses Down, Necro, Elementalist
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Last edited by mika2salo#7776 on Mar 7, 2018, 10:22:49 AM
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LeFizz wrote:
Dont suggest this build, very bad, especially for HC due to very low defences.
Necromancer with golems? Rly? When elementalist is so much better.
Curse setup, Elemental weakness instead of flammability? lol.
Curse setup as blasphemy auras, rofl ok.
2k hp 7k ES, hello chaos dmg (even if u max ur chaos res it wont help that much, especially with ur chayula).

"Cheap and noob friendly build to start with great tutorial"
And that is just a blatant lie.


Did you read the whole build ? Did you understand the build ? I think no, at least for the latter.

Elementalist is better for what ? Surely not for survivability, as you have less block, no offering buff. Damage maybe / immunity to elemental ailments ? Right. That doesn't make it better :).
As it has been discussed many and many times here, going for golementalist vs golemancer (vs golemoccultist now) is mostly a matter of taste and a way to play the build.
Each of them have advantages over the others: tankiness, damage, etc.

The only thing I agree in everything here is the fact that the build is not always cheap (last league Primordial Might were only 40-50C, this league it's more 70+.)
But still, it's cheap as you can farm without it, with specters until you buy them, using only a tabula rasa in the beginning, until high tier map, it's still cheaper than many build that can do end game content.

/edit: removed already answered things.
My version of golementalist: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1827487/page/276#p15615251
Last edited by Anakhon#4996 on Mar 7, 2018, 10:26:47 AM
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LeFizz wrote:
Dont suggest this build, very bad, especially for HC due to very low defences.
Necromancer with golems? Rly? When elementalist is so much better.
Curse setup, Elemental weakness instead of flammability? lol.
Curse setup as blasphemy auras, rofl ok.
2k hp 7k ES, hello chaos dmg (even if u max ur chaos res it wont help that much, especially with ur chayula).

"Cheap and noob friendly build to start with great tutorial"
And that is just a blatant lie.



This is my fourth times doing golems, and this guide is by far the best treasure trove for info on golem builds I've seen thus far. Not only is it very detailed, but the creator is always taking his time out from playing the game just so he can respond to almost everyone that has questions, all the time.

Sorry if it's not working out for you, I've never played HC myself, but I love this build in SC.
I would like to beg to differ here... I actually play ONLY HC and have never played SC. If you check my profile, all those are dead HC chars for dumb reasons.

That said, I have made this build dozens of times and to be honest, this time around with the Occulist, I feel a ton more safer. I don't even have Uber lab yet and I am already at 10k EHP with other tweaking still available. I will likely be 12-13k once I get Uber lab and rest of gear that I need. I can realistically get above 15K if I moved out Ventors and Biscos but I am not doing it.

I am up to tier 8 maps now and honestly haven't been worried about dying once. So please all of you that are talking smack about the guide being SC-only, it is completely not true.

@Mika - quick question - since my shield doesn't have spell block, do you think it even makes sense to invest into Necro Aegis right now? Also, can you look at my gear and let me know what improvements you see? Obv I am all maxed on res even with the Ventors and Biscos but my Chaos res is horrid. Any suggestions would be awesome.

Update: Just did normal Atziri this morning with eaze at level 79 - Hardcore.
Last edited by dsata#1867 on Mar 7, 2018, 2:21:41 PM
What is the point of animated guardian if you cant use him for shaper, elder, and the end game bosses? Since the gem would have to be like level 25 and thats not that realistic with the gem set ups.

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