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Hi,
If I did follow this build, is it complicated to switch from Flameblast co GC? Does tallent points fits well or should I make new char to make GC build? Thx
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Posted bylolosss#2451on Aug 9, 2017, 11:08:06 PMBanned
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Are you able to do tier 13+ w/ Shaper? I'm using this guys build and some people are just impossible.
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Posted byt3hw0lf#0377on Aug 10, 2017, 12:08:45 AM
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Hi,
I'm using GC version of this build and I've got a few pieces of mind to share.
1) The Soul Mantle. It gives you everything you need: increased elemental damage, additional totem, allows you to literally 7-gem and that additional gem can add quite a load of damage. I'm using curse immunity Diamond flask, because you must spam it anyway.
2) There is an Elemental Focus gem in original build and I think it's very bad for GC build: remember, all your damage is cold and lightning, and it's almost all the time crits. Cold crits freeze and shatter corpses - that is extremely helpful VS revivers and those spike-exploding mobs, lightning crit - 100% shocked state, so at best you get additional 50% increased damage against shocked mobs, which is massive. Furthermore, it allows you to use gems like https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Omen_on_the_Winds which adds a flat(!) 20% damage against chilled enemies. So, I don't think that damage bonus from Elemental Focus is better than having no elemental Ailments(correct me if I'm wrong).
3) Spell echo. I still don't know what's better - Increased Critical Damage or Spell Echo, needs some testing. SE looks nice and works great with GC, it's like you're having 6 totems(with Soul Mantle). Tooltip DPS is significantly lower with it than with Increased Critical Damage though. Citical damage gem will give you ~20-25% overall damage increase.
I'm lvl 76 at the moment, with most of gems at lvl 17-18 and 0% quality, and 5-linked Soul Mantle. Totems are destroying everything on low lvl maps, still didn't get any mid-high tier, will see how this build does there. |
Posted byalex_disp#4958on Aug 10, 2017, 3:00:50 AM
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alex_disp wrote:
Hi,
I'm using GC version of this build and I've got a few pieces of mind to share.
1) The Soul Mantle. It gives you everything you need: increased elemental damage, additional totem, allows you to literally 7-gem and that additional gem can add quite a load of damage. I'm using curse immunity Diamond flask, because you must spam it anyway.
2) There is an Elemental Focus gem in original build and I think it's very bad for GC build: remember, all your damage is cold and lightning, and it's almost all the time crits. Cold crits freeze and shatter corpses - that is extremely helpful VS revivers and those spike-exploding mobs, lightning crit - 100% shocked state, so at best you get additional 50% increased damage against shocked mobs, which is massive. Furthermore, it allows you to use gems like https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Omen_on_the_Winds which adds a flat(!) 20% damage against chilled enemies. So, I don't think that damage bonus from Elemental Focus is better than having no elemental Ailments(correct me if I'm wrong).
3) Spell echo. I still don't know what's better - Increased Critical Damage or Spell Echo, needs some testing. SE looks nice and works great with GC, it's like you're having 6 totems(with Soul Mantle). Tooltip DPS is significantly lower with it than with Increased Critical Damage though. Citical damage gem will give you ~20-25% overall damage increase.
I'm lvl 76 at the moment, with most of gems at lvl 17-18 and 0% quality, and 5-linked Soul Mantle. Totems are destroying everything on low lvl maps, still didn't get any mid-high tier, will see how this build does there.
Hi, are you playing on hc?
Do you have any issues with survivability?
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Posted byZer0Coo1_#0739on Aug 10, 2017, 3:06:01 AM
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Zer0Coo1_ wrote:
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alex_disp wrote:
Hi,
I'm using GC version of this build and I've got a few pieces of mind to share.
1) The Soul Mantle. It gives you everything you need: increased elemental damage, additional totem, allows you to literally 7-gem and that additional gem can add quite a load of damage. I'm using curse immunity Diamond flask, because you must spam it anyway.
2) There is an Elemental Focus gem in original build and I think it's very bad for GC build: remember, all your damage is cold and lightning, and it's almost all the time crits. Cold crits freeze and shatter corpses - that is extremely helpful VS revivers and those spike-exploding mobs, lightning crit - 100% shocked state, so at best you get additional 50% increased damage against shocked mobs, which is massive. Furthermore, it allows you to use gems like https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Omen_on_the_Winds which adds a flat(!) 20% damage against chilled enemies. So, I don't think that damage bonus from Elemental Focus is better than having no elemental Ailments(correct me if I'm wrong).
3) Spell echo. I still don't know what's better - Increased Critical Damage or Spell Echo, needs some testing. SE looks nice and works great with GC, it's like you're having 6 totems(with Soul Mantle). Tooltip DPS is significantly lower with it than with Increased Critical Damage though. Citical damage gem will give you ~20-25% overall damage increase.
I'm lvl 76 at the moment, with most of gems at lvl 17-18 and 0% quality, and 5-linked Soul Mantle. Totems are destroying everything on low lvl maps, still didn't get any mid-high tier, will see how this build does there.
Hi, are you playing on hc?
Do you have any issues with survivability?
Me and my friend started with this build currently level 79 using FB mostly and sometimes GC for fast clear like in Lab, Survivability issues are real at tier 8+ rare maps you can just get 1-2 shot easily and breaches are almost impossible you get swarmed and killed way too fast while FB charges...or GC kills(lower damage) so i must say this build is kinda squishy but damage is insane.
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Posted byAlextazY#3953on Aug 10, 2017, 3:31:56 AM
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alex_disp wrote:
Hi,
I'm using GC version of this build and I've got a few pieces of mind to share.
1) The Soul Mantle. It gives you everything you need: increased elemental damage, additional totem, allows you to literally 7-gem and that additional gem can add quite a load of damage. I'm using curse immunity Diamond flask, because you must spam it anyway.
2) There is an Elemental Focus gem in original build and I think it's very bad for GC build: remember, all your damage is cold and lightning, and it's almost all the time crits. Cold crits freeze and shatter corpses - that is extremely helpful VS revivers and those spike-exploding mobs, lightning crit - 100% shocked state, so at best you get additional 50% increased damage against shocked mobs, which is massive. Furthermore, it allows you to use gems like https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Omen_on_the_Winds which adds a flat(!) 20% damage against chilled enemies. So, I don't think that damage bonus from Elemental Focus is better than having no elemental Ailments(correct me if I'm wrong).
I'm lvl 76 at the moment, with most of gems at lvl 17-18 and 0% quality, and 5-linked Soul Mantle. Totems are destroying everything on low lvl maps, still didn't get any mid-high tier, will see how this build does there.
Swapping elemental focus for critical strike damage is right. I actually feel like doing more damage because of high crit chance(+ assasin's mark on top of that).
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Posted byjackietran24#7932on Aug 10, 2017, 4:44:48 AM
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What gems do you suggest instead of Elemental Focus , assuming you have a 6L, in order of power per skill ? What about a "7L", with a 6L Soul Mantle ?
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Posted byadreeasa#0340on Aug 10, 2017, 5:16:28 AM
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Zer0Coo1_ wrote:
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alex_disp wrote:
Hi,
I'm using GC version of this build and I've got a few pieces of mind to share.
1) The Soul Mantle. It gives you everything you need: increased elemental damage, additional totem, allows you to literally 7-gem and that additional gem can add quite a load of damage. I'm using curse immunity Diamond flask, because you must spam it anyway.
2) There is an Elemental Focus gem in original build and I think it's very bad for GC build: remember, all your damage is cold and lightning, and it's almost all the time crits. Cold crits freeze and shatter corpses - that is extremely helpful VS revivers and those spike-exploding mobs, lightning crit - 100% shocked state, so at best you get additional 50% increased damage against shocked mobs, which is massive. Furthermore, it allows you to use gems like https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Omen_on_the_Winds which adds a flat(!) 20% damage against chilled enemies. So, I don't think that damage bonus from Elemental Focus is better than having no elemental Ailments(correct me if I'm wrong).
3) Spell echo. I still don't know what's better - Increased Critical Damage or Spell Echo, needs some testing. SE looks nice and works great with GC, it's like you're having 6 totems(with Soul Mantle). Tooltip DPS is significantly lower with it than with Increased Critical Damage though. Citical damage gem will give you ~20-25% overall damage increase.
I'm lvl 76 at the moment, with most of gems at lvl 17-18 and 0% quality, and 5-linked Soul Mantle. Totems are destroying everything on low lvl maps, still didn't get any mid-high tier, will see how this build does there.
Hi, are you playing on hc?
Do you have any issues with survivability?
I'm playing on normal, but I don't have any big issues still.
You don't need survivability if you 1-hit everything :)
Jokes aside, this build IS something like glass cannon, so I'm trying to put everything in damage(but capping resists is still mandatory). And playing glass cannon is not the thing you do on HC. But here's an idea for HC: you can use Soul Mantle and decoy totem with Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance Support + Increased AOE + Increased duration, put some passives into totem health and resists, maybe get enchant that increases Decoy Totem life and you get a SUPER fat totem that will tank all damage for you while 2 other totems destroys everything.
Last edited by alex_disp#4958 on Aug 10, 2017, 5:31:43 AM
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Posted byalex_disp#4958on Aug 10, 2017, 5:23:36 AM
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alex_disp wrote:
Hi,
I'm using GC version of this build and I've got a few pieces of mind to share.
1) The Soul Mantle. It gives you everything you need: increased elemental damage, additional totem, allows you to literally 7-gem and that additional gem can add quite a load of damage. I'm using curse immunity Diamond flask, because you must spam it anyway.
2) There is an Elemental Focus gem in original build and I think it's very bad for GC build: remember, all your damage is cold and lightning, and it's almost all the time crits. Cold crits freeze and shatter corpses - that is extremely helpful VS revivers and those spike-exploding mobs, lightning crit - 100% shocked state, so at best you get additional 50% increased damage against shocked mobs, which is massive. Furthermore, it allows you to use gems like https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Omen_on_the_Winds which adds a flat(!) 20% damage against chilled enemies. So, I don't think that damage bonus from Elemental Focus is better than having no elemental Ailments(correct me if I'm wrong).
3) Spell echo. I still don't know what's better - Increased Critical Damage or Spell Echo, needs some testing. SE looks nice and works great with GC, it's like you're having 6 totems(with Soul Mantle). Tooltip DPS is significantly lower with it than with Increased Critical Damage though. Citical damage gem will give you ~20-25% overall damage increase.
I'm lvl 76 at the moment, with most of gems at lvl 17-18 and 0% quality, and 5-linked Soul Mantle. Totems are destroying everything on low lvl maps, still didn't get any mid-high tier, will see how this build does there.
Your third point makes no sense, as spell echo doesn't work through totems, it says so on the spell echo tooltip and it also won't show any sort of cast speed increase on whatever spell you're using.
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Posted byDromlin#3284on Aug 10, 2017, 5:39:01 AM
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alex_disp wrote:
Hi,
I'm using GC version of this build and I've got a few pieces of mind to share.
1) The Soul Mantle. It gives you everything you need: increased elemental damage, additional totem, allows you to literally 7-gem and that additional gem can add quite a load of damage. I'm using curse immunity Diamond flask, because you must spam it anyway.
2) There is an Elemental Focus gem in original build and I think it's very bad for GC build: remember, all your damage is cold and lightning, and it's almost all the time crits. Cold crits freeze and shatter corpses - that is extremely helpful VS revivers and those spike-exploding mobs, lightning crit - 100% shocked state, so at best you get additional 50% increased damage against shocked mobs, which is massive. Furthermore, it allows you to use gems like https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Omen_on_the_Winds which adds a flat(!) 20% damage against chilled enemies. So, I don't think that damage bonus from Elemental Focus is better than having no elemental Ailments(correct me if I'm wrong).
3) Spell echo. I still don't know what's better - Increased Critical Damage or Spell Echo, needs some testing. SE looks nice and works great with GC, it's like you're having 6 totems(with Soul Mantle). Tooltip DPS is significantly lower with it than with Increased Critical Damage though. Citical damage gem will give you ~20-25% overall damage increase.
I'm lvl 76 at the moment, with most of gems at lvl 17-18 and 0% quality, and 5-linked Soul Mantle. Totems are destroying everything on low lvl maps, still didn't get any mid-high tier, will see how this build does there.
Hi could you say how much average dmg on your totem you have ? (the average that poe say not the real)
Thx ^^
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Posted byBloodLab#5454on Aug 10, 2017, 5:40:19 AM
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