Hey Ghazzy
I have a question around spell echo. It obviously helps to summon two skeletons at once, but are the mages supposed to then use Spell Echo when they cast? It doesn't appear they always do from my testing. There is a bug with spectres not using Spell Echo, so I was wondering if it perhaps impacted this as well?
Last edited by daleroy#6108 on Dec 12, 2017, 12:39:39 AM
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Posted bydaleroy#6108on Dec 12, 2017, 12:33:56 AM
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IyRednaxela wrote:
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Ghazzy wrote:
NOTE
My build guides are created to be generic guides not specifically created for league specific modifiers.
Abyss league promotes to NOT use the Baron helmet or Iron Will (use Ele focus or Cont. Destruction instead) and remove all strength jewels and simply add as many FLAT dmg providing MINION related Abyss Jewels instead :)
so instead of baron helm what do you suggest?
I already have one equipped... is it bad to just keep it?
Level 72 atm and clearing maps is a breeze only got up to tier 3 though..
anyways its still a great build and im having a blast!
Also playing with Baron and around 600str atm. Doing t10 with easy as for now. Still don't have Uber lab and 6th link.
Will check without baron and with flat dps minion jewels later today.
Great build ! :)
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After small testing Baron>no baron :)
;-) Last edited by SolaMira#5786 on Dec 12, 2017, 12:18:50 PM
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Posted bySolaMira#5786on Dec 12, 2017, 4:40:19 AM
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I've been using SRS to level, found myself a tabula and using it for my skellies.
My question is, what change should I expect when I transition to skellies? Someone said clearspeed gets slower etc... I'm wondering if I want to transition to begin with.
Specifically, what difference in playstyle can I expect, what about single target dps, safety, consistency etc.? Considering skellies got buffed quite a bit more than SRS, they're probably gonna rock, too, eh?
As for baron, won't it still be a reasonable dps gain, even when I use abyss flat minion damage jewels? As someone asked before I'd also be interested what alternative you suggest, and how that's better than the baron.
Lastly, I'm guessing the Animate Guardian is meant for Leer Cast + Dying Breath as you said in the generic summoner guide video? What other items make sense on him to ensure he won't die?
Mew~
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Posted byJayEff#1229on Dec 12, 2017, 8:21:37 AM
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its probably a stupid question, but why do you skill so much melee damage and axe damage? do minions get the bonuses from the skilltree? (excuse me if this was already asked)
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Posted byThe_L1ne#6624on Dec 12, 2017, 12:55:39 PM
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SolaMira wrote:
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IyRednaxela wrote:
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Ghazzy wrote:
NOTE
My build guides are created to be generic guides not specifically created for league specific modifiers.
Abyss league promotes to NOT use the Baron helmet or Iron Will (use Ele focus or Cont. Destruction instead) and remove all strength jewels and simply add as many FLAT dmg providing MINION related Abyss Jewels instead :)
so instead of baron helm what do you suggest?
I already have one equipped... is it bad to just keep it?
Level 72 atm and clearing maps is a breeze only got up to tier 3 though..
anyways its still a great build and im having a blast!
Also playing with Baron and around 600str atm. Doing t10 with easy as for now. Still don't have Uber lab and 6th link.
Will check without baron and with flat dps minion jewels later today.
Great build ! :)
---EDIT---
After small testing Baron>no baron :)
Awesome! thanks for testing haha! Can't wait to get higher in the map tiers but I'm sure melting everything else so far! Just waiting for that scourge to drop! lol
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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Posted byIyRednaxela#4046on Dec 12, 2017, 2:06:32 PM
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IyRednaxela wrote:
Awesome! thanks for testing haha! Can't wait to get higher in the map tiers but I'm sure melting everything else so far! Just waiting for that scourge to drop! lol
That's ofc my personal feeling but IMO it's better. After uber lab it's amazing :) now just trying to get 6L and then scourge.
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Posted bySolaMira#5786on Dec 12, 2017, 4:11:23 PM
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SolaMira wrote:
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IyRednaxela wrote:
Awesome! thanks for testing haha! Can't wait to get higher in the map tiers but I'm sure melting everything else so far! Just waiting for that scourge to drop! lol
That's ofc my personal feeling but IMO it's better. After uber lab it's amazing :) now just trying to get 6L and then scourge.
I thought I felt stronger as well with the baron. So with your test you just used baron with the Brawn gems or Baron with the Flat damage gems?
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Posted byDavanos#1077on Dec 12, 2017, 4:18:58 PM
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Hmm the sites lagging and it made me post twice lol.
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Posted byDavanos#1077on Dec 12, 2017, 4:19:50 PM
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Davanos wrote:
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SolaMira wrote:
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IyRednaxela wrote:
Awesome! thanks for testing haha! Can't wait to get higher in the map tiers but I'm sure melting everything else so far! Just waiting for that scourge to drop! lol
That's ofc my personal feeling but IMO it's better. After uber lab it's amazing :) now just trying to get 6L and then scourge.
I thought I felt stronger as well with the baron. So with your test you just used baron with the Brawn gems or Baron with the Flat damage gems?
1. Baron + Brawn jewel
2. Baron with flat jewel
3. Rare helmet with flat jewel
Imo 1st was best but dunno, it;s my first summoner :)
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Posted bySolaMira#5786on Dec 12, 2017, 4:35:56 PM
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daleroy wrote:
Hey Ghazzy
I have a question around spell echo. It obviously helps to summon two skeletons at once, but are the mages supposed to then use Spell Echo when they cast? It doesn't appear they always do from my testing. There is a bug with spectres not using Spell Echo, so I was wondering if it perhaps impacted this as well?
Very possible they are affected as well, try to verify it then post it in the bug report forum thread tbh.
(and in here please!)
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SolaMira wrote:
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IyRednaxela wrote:
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Ghazzy wrote:
NOTE
My build guides are created to be generic guides not specifically created for league specific modifiers.
Abyss league promotes to NOT use the Baron helmet or Iron Will (use Ele focus or Cont. Destruction instead) and remove all strength jewels and simply add as many FLAT dmg providing MINION related Abyss Jewels instead :)
so instead of baron helm what do you suggest?
I already have one equipped... is it bad to just keep it?
Level 72 atm and clearing maps is a breeze only got up to tier 3 though..
anyways its still a great build and im having a blast!
Also playing with Baron and around 600str atm. Doing t10 with easy as for now. Still don't have Uber lab and 6th link.
Will check without baron and with flat dps minion jewels later today.
Great build ! :)
---EDIT---
After small testing Baron>no baron :)
Cheers, thank you for testing!
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JayEff wrote:
I've been using SRS to level, found myself a tabula and using it for my skellies.
My question is, what change should I expect when I transition to skellies? Someone said clearspeed gets slower etc... I'm wondering if I want to transition to begin with.
Specifically, what difference in playstyle can I expect, what about single target dps, safety, consistency etc.? Considering skellies got buffed quite a bit more than SRS, they're probably gonna rock, too, eh?
As for baron, won't it still be a reasonable dps gain, even when I use abyss flat minion damage jewels? As someone asked before I'd also be interested what alternative you suggest, and how that's better than the baron.
Lastly, I'm guessing the Animate Guardian is meant for Leer Cast + Dying Breath as you said in the generic summoner guide video? What other items make sense on him to ensure he won't die?
It's always better to get added flat dmg for skellies, the reason we use Baron is because we can then use Iron Will for them as well to further scale their DPS output.
AG gear:
Leer cast
Dying breath
Southbound gloves
Lioneyes paws
ambus charge crusader chainmail
Regarding the transition;
The playstyle is COMPLETELY different. With the help of Soul Weaver ascendancy and boss kill OpieOP spectres I believe they should be clearing better than SRS tbh, if not they'll at least be around the same efficiency but also require a more active playstyle.
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The_L1ne wrote:
its probably a stupid question, but why do you skill so much melee damage and axe damage? do minions get the bonuses from the skilltree? (excuse me if this was already asked)
Wait what....? Are you sure you're looking at the correct links :S
There shouldn't be any melee or axe dmg in this guide at all! Please double check what you're looking at cause I couldn't find any problems with the guide!
Guides: https://www.poe-vault.com/guides/ghazzy-guide-hub
YT: https://www.youtube.com/GhazzyTV
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/ghazzytv
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Posted byGhazzy#0404on Dec 12, 2017, 8:02:59 PM
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