CTF Tournament 3v3 - Let's talk about restrictions

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lapiz wrote:

..yet here you guys are banning everything that counter your build and claim your build to be the true legit fair and square manly builds :D

Who's saying that? We're trying to discuss without ego what would be considered by many to ruin the fun for many people.



Ban my offhands, move on.



Ban my L21 CWDT, move on


Ban my legacy vinktar, move on

I don't see how I'm doing myself any favors here guys.

Let's keep it friendly and try to make points about how we can make this work. I know we compete with each other but we're still on the same team since GGG isn't taking any steps. We need to learn to figure these things out instead of throwing our arms up in the air saying, "Oh well, what's the point? Might as well <insert hyperbolic statement here>!"

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I didn't even have OBS installed until the end of May, so I don't have any videos before that. I also don't record 24/7, just when I tell people I do. :D

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lapiz wrote:

Of course we are here to have fun and it would be kinda silly if someone actually cared for winning some random CTF match.

..yet here you guys are banning everything that counter your build and claim your build to be the true legit fair and square manly builds :D

It is just ironic that is all.

i cant believe you were thinking that im eliminating every build out there to make my build or some builds uncounterable. thats an insult first of all, cause you are thinking im that concrete/narrow minded. some things are obviously broken. you know that, we know that. i banned my own build. if you want barrage to be banned? just say it. no problem.

what build you would like to play? if you wanna play flask build just say it. i have no idea how you are going to justify your flask build and its viability in CTF matchç

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Rupenus wrote:

i cant believe you were thinking that im eliminating every build out there to make my build or some builds uncounterable. thats an insult first of all, cause you are thinking im that concrete/narrow minded. some things are obviously broken. you know that, we know that. i banned my own build. if you want barrage to be banned? just say it. no problem.

what build you would like to play? if you wanna play flask build just say it. i have no idea how you are going to justify your flask build and its viability in CTF matchç

You do realise with a few gem/passive swaps your build is just as good as blast rain, barrage, ice shot puncture, frenzy, burning arrow, lightning arrow or even elemental hit (and all the other bow skills I forgot to list)?

Also Ahfack the things you linked are of very little use to you anyways.. -.- Just spam the EQ, get more damage mitigation plus mobility and very few builds can even look at your way.

Forget what I want to do. It has very little to do with bending restrictions of a CTF tournament to a certain direction or this thing you call "flask build" (which isnt related to pathfinder at all by the way). I'm merely commenting on your attempts of organizing an event for everyone.

The real issue is why would you ban anything at all from something like this? You justify it all by saying "lol its op", "roflmao i cant do anything vs it" or "stop insulting me". By banning all the flavour of the month things you just reduce the amount of players that might be interested in this event, because the majority of them wont bother to make completely new chars for such an occasion.

CTF is quite fun no matter what type of chars are in it. Everything has a counter of some sort, even traps and mines in a CTF environment. We had plenty of cool games in LLD CTF and the one who had the most op 1v1 char certainly wasnt unbeatable in a CTF environment.

No, CTF has the POTENTIAL to be fun, but it isn't when you have tiny man-clit 1-shot builds like EA being spammed all over in small quarters, LA, or really anything that's unavoidable and ridiculously powerful. The matches will be over in no time with some of the more notorious skills, THAT is why there are skills being banned, should be pretty obvious.

During the pvp seasons and earlier we did tons of 3v3s and ctfs, even some 6v6s and we never restricted anything. It was fun, though obviously some shit were just op but all we did was pray we got it on our team, if not we went all in versus that guy

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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

During the pvp seasons and earlier we did tons of 3v3s and ctfs, even some 6v6s and we never restricted anything. It was fun, though obviously some shit were just op but all we did was pray we got it on our team, if not we went all in versus that guy

It's not even the same game anymore. PvP is at the absolute shittiest it's ever been. What took no arms to play before now requires even less. You could basically be dead, just propped up against a keyboard and perform decently. Stick a fork in this bitch, it's done. PvP will forever be shit and the pile just keeps getting bigger daily.

Anyone still devoting time to PvP, wasting currency to "hone" your build. Is trying waaaaaay too fucking hard in an environment not worth effort. It's like training for weeks to do something that basically a newborn can do equally as well with a full diaper.

This...this is PoE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJIjoE27F-Q

Lol mulla

Lapiz my eq isn't great versus juggernauts bc 14end charges and perma immcall kinda cramps my style lol. Swapping to 100%light pain sunder SS doesn't even get them because it takes time to build even with the ss dur helm enchant I have, by the time the charges go off Cranium slays me. There's also a CI juggernaut with death's door boots so you can imagine how well I do there! Typhera's srs chaos clouds kill me in less than a second with 10k life, overcapped chaos res and from ONE minion. I have video of that. These are just the first three that come to mind.

I suspect a better approach might be to put a movement speed bar that's not to be passed (unless you want to be called a jerk I suppose). I'm not sure what you guys consider fast but with flasks I can hit 250 within the discussed parameters. Another potential solution would be to put a ban on silver flasks, which are insane for leap slammers.
I can live without my cwdt set ups, flamedash is counter-intuitive in ctf and the chill from vortex would be useless against most melee builds. While you're discussing block you might want to address dodge, lot of support for it came out in the last few patches and there's more then one or two prophecy unis floating around standard at the moment.
Are you sure you want to keep curse on hit, for melee you can stick it on a counter and have highlevel curses being deployed with favorable rng.

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I suspect a better approach might be to put a movement speed bar that's not to be passed (unless you want to be called a jerk I suppose)

guys please read the main post. its long i know but please.

The op specifies pathfinder, you can put massive speed on any class, it's just obscene on the pathfinder.