CTF Tournament 3v3 - Let's talk about restrictions

Hello, yesterday we were talking about that ahfack wants to make a melee tournament. I dont fancy melee much, so i come up with the idea of making 3v3 ctf tournament with some certain restrictions.

Why CTF? since we have a lot broken stuff, 1v1's dont make a sense to me.

i will elaborate more about what kind of pvp ctf tournament i have in my mind in upcoming days more clearly.

i'd like to ban pathfinder not because of balance issues but mostly because its unfair in CTF, since its the by far fastest class in the game.

''i want people to fight' is the motto i have while banning the builds. we dont want autism, greedy mechanic abuse etc. thats for sure. I'd like to ban all offscreeners including LA or EA to have a fight going on between characters instead of autistic spamming. Needless to say, autism to the max, aka trapper, miner builds are also banned. We may debate about lightning trap builds, i think they are kinda fair since that skills requires active and offensive gameplay to work.

Vortex is banned. Its too out of pvp damage restrictions at the moment. All stuff which interacts with walls and frost walls... LA, EA, Ice Shot, Arctic Breath, Fireball you name it... are banned.

I'd like to give permission to builds which benefits from acking a proper pvp damage resitctions such as barrage, firestorm. These as you well know, doesnt get affected from T factor as they should do.
Since these skill require some targeting and initiation im okay with that.

EQ is allowed. In 3v3 matches its really hard to initiate and stay alive so i'd like to give melee a chance and keep EQ in this tournament. Leap slam is allowed to use too.

Support buidls are allowed!!! it would be ammaazing.

Aegis, non Aegis regen tank builds are banned. No Autism please keep it for yourself. Aegis itself is not banned. Example: Stronin's build, maybe you know him.

HoT builds are allowed. No pathfinder ofc.

Builds with 130+ movespeed are banned.

Blade vortex is, sorry... banned. I'd like to also include it to autism... since while everyone fighting you go to a corner and get blade charges.

Summoner buildsd... i dont know... please elaborate your ideas. It sounds autistic, they dont really fight just spam some minions and hope for a chaos cloud kill.

CoC is allowed, Discharge is not! Discharge can be abused to the extend where gives no chance to do micromanagement to opponent.


added restrictions by suggestions of pvp community:

blast rain is banned
animate guardians are banned
tempst shield + inquisitor is banned.

Please share your thoughts about restrctions and generally about the idea of making 3v3 CTF tournament. Also if you wanna join, mention it in your post.

Great post Rup!

I think all of that sounds great. I would allow summoners, but they cannot have Beacon of Corruption. All forms of traps should be banned, and honestly barrage and firestorm is reallllly pushing it in my opinion. No animate guardians, no CWDT is great as well.

And of course I'm down, I just need to know in advance when we're doing this shindig so I can have some guaranteed play time. :)

INQUISITOR? barrage? firestorm? hot? eq? blast rain? random traps? EA? mines? trigger gems? 50% of the other skills in poe (all bow skills and spells)? why are these allowed if you supposedly ban everything "good" or op?

You guys ban only half of the imbalanced crap, which begs the question why ban anything at all? Even with all these restrictions everyone will still just get one-shot if one so desires, it wont change anything

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lapiz wrote:

INQUISITOR? barrage? firestorm? hot? eq? blast rain? random traps? trigger gems? 50% of the other skills in poe? why are these allowed if you supposedly ban everything "good" or op?

You guys ban only half of the imbalanced crap, which begs the question why ban anything at all? Even with all these restrictions everyone will still just get one-shot if one so desires, it wont change anything

i think there is no need to overreact. we are still in debating phase. i'd like to hear everyone's opinion.

+no animte guardians
+no blast rain


all traps/miners have been banned already in my post.

it would be great if you can elaborate the other 50% you have in your mind.

Im not sure about inquisitor. I dont mean to ban all things which is overpowered. Im not seeking a perfect balance here with restrictions. My aim is as i said, i want people to fight. i just dont want autism and too greedy abuse of every OP crap in the meta. i can bare firestorm... i can bare inquisitor too. but if you put tempest shield on top of that, i cant stand it. cause that is too greedy. also tempest shield can teamkill with one shot.

ah yeah

+no tempest shield + inquisitor.

list the trigger gems you are mentioning also.

I think summoner builds are fine, since anyone with freeze prolif (me for instance) can make easy work of minion hordes.

Anyone can "offscreen" to a degree, so that'll be hard to actually enforce, other than the obvious choices.

Otherwise, I think those rules are good. Fuck Inquisitor.

I have a opinion.
You don't mention about glove enchants. Some enchants like ' Cast Commandment of Winter when Hit ' are really really op. it should be banned.


And, Trapper and miner builds are banned. It means can't use smoke mine? or allowed?

you should ban fake melee skills like LS and ST.

Also what about discharge coc?

Incoming whirling blade crit bleed lol Looking at you icedeal...

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lapiz wrote:

INQUISITOR? barrage? firestorm? hot? eq? blast rain? random traps? EA? mines? trigger gems? 50% of the other skills in poe (all bow skills and spells)? why are these allowed if you supposedly ban everything "good" or op?

You guys ban only half of the imbalanced crap, which begs the question why ban anything at all? Even with all these restrictions everyone will still just get one-shot if one so desires, it wont change anything

"make a melee tournament"

Bow skills and traps are obviously banned.

Lapiz you can already get out your bleed crit from his Formaldehyde solution.

The guy who mentions enchantments has a point. I had Decree of Winter and, being cold damage built, it shredded people up. I don't have it anymore, just an on-kill one that pales in comparison, but at the same time sometimes people need gloves. In my case, if I had it, I wouldn't be able to use any of my gear, and I CERTAINLY would not remove it just for a tourney.

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lolozori wrote:

Incoming whirling blade crit bleed lol Looking at you icedeal...

I haven't play that char in almost 7 months, he is not even ascended and his gear is scattered around other char or sold so...

Anyway back on the topic, how can you actually check what kind of flask people are using. You may ban pathfinder but The Retch + Duration flask nods are available to everyone.

Also banning Offscreen mean banning all ranged skills, seriously if you want to make that thing work it has to be melee only.