[3.5] Say_Ten's Melee Shadow - Murder Everything Cheaply

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Say_Ten wrote:

ice golem is such a pussy. seriously just want to support it with minion life and resists to make it STFU.

since they buffed claws and claw nodes and nerfed daggers, they are really similar. claws are more defensive for the leech/life on hit, daggers are more offensive due to the built-in global crit. daggers, for that reason, also become more versatile for other builds because you can roll spellcaster mods on them. IMO claws are the way to go, which is why i use them. however, i think dagger prices have gone down a little bit so it would be easy enough to try.

if you're selling a headhunter, just go for the fucking gold.

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Cøpe wrote:

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Say_Ten wrote:

ice golem is such a pussy. seriously just want to support it with minion life and resists to make it STFU.

since they buffed claws and claw nodes and nerfed daggers, they are really similar. claws are more defensive for the leech/life on hit, daggers are more offensive due to the built-in global crit. daggers, for that reason, also become more versatile for other builds because you can roll spellcaster mods on them. IMO claws are the way to go, which is why i use them. however, i think dagger prices have gone down a little bit so it would be easy enough to try.

if you're selling a headhunter, just go for the fucking gold.

I think its just the ex-WoW rogue in me but I had to go daggers xD

So I liked the idea of steel rings to help with damage and I dropped Lightning Strike in favor of CWDT Minion Life Golem; debating coming back to LS cause its pretty awesome. Since I'm not running unsets I was wondering if I could run a 3 link LS and drop the assassins mark/curse on hit and keep it viable.

Since I'm running daggers I spec'd out of extra power charge in favor of the mana/leech node instead to dagger tree. I had this jewel sitting in my stash soo I had to go daggers

Legacy Bringer makes this build feel stupid tanky btw. Love it.

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Cøpe wrote:

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Say_Ten wrote:

ice golem is such a pussy. seriously just want to support it with minion life and resists to make it STFU.

since they buffed claws and claw nodes and nerfed daggers, they are really similar. claws are more defensive for the leech/life on hit, daggers are more offensive due to the built-in global crit. daggers, for that reason, also become more versatile for other builds because you can roll spellcaster mods on them. IMO claws are the way to go, which is why i use them. however, i think dagger prices have gone down a little bit so it would be easy enough to try.

if you're selling a headhunter, just go for the fucking gold.

I think its just the ex-WoW rogue in me but I had to go daggers xD

So I liked the idea of steel rings to help with damage and I dropped Lightning Strike in favor of CWDT Minion Life Golem; debating coming back to LS cause its pretty awesome. Since I'm not running unsets I was wondering if I could run a 3 link LS and drop the assassins mark/curse on hit and keep it viable.

Since I'm running daggers I spec'd out of extra power charge in favor of the mana/leech node instead to dagger tree. I had this jewel sitting in my stash soo I had to go daggers

Legacy Bringer makes this build feel stupid tanky btw. Love it.

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nabilfares5 wrote:

Could you take a look at my items? Is the accuracy a must? It makes good amulets or rings so expensive, and i dont have 1ex or more to buy those.
Is there a rate for life or resistences? I didnt when to trade like X% resistence for Y life or so on, so i just took resistence over life to cap it.

Using poacher mark until i get a good unset ring, then going to use warlord if in need for sustain or enfeeble if my sustain is fine. I cant change the belt and boots, i need it for the str bonus.

Im going to change the amulet, the 2stone ring and maybe the gloves, is the rest fine? Im getting more currency to upgrade them.

And is worth to trade the bino's regen for the Vaal Pact?Its doing fine for me, but maybe at high map tiers it becomes better to use VP?

Sorry for all this questions, im just in love with this build, and like you i hate magic shadow.

Edit:Already changed my amulet and one of the rings, going to change the other ring for an unset ring and the gloves to cap 75% in all res. Atm my cold is 67% the rest is capped. The rest is at ~80%.

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Audelus wrote:

How did you get the desired stats on those gears? Do you keep rerolling them with chaos orbs? Or did they just happened to drop with those stats in them?

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Pingouinmalin wrote:

Hi ! Trying this build as my second build for the Abyss league (the first one was okay dps wise against trash, but lacking in single target and defences and it used the same claws). Really fun right now, same feeling as previous build, but more efficient against bosses and more life.

I'm going for Frost blades (don't like the feeling of lightning strike very much), but sticking to the build otherwise.

And I just got this thing of beauty :

It seems really good to me (maybe even good enough to put the dual strike in it rather than in BoR), but I'd like the advice of someone else : very good, good or bad idea (and then I would be back to double Touch of anguish) ?

I just hit level 65 and did try it a bit. Seems good right now, but can't tell for the future.


And subsequent question : if good, would it be worth it to get the Crimson Dance node ?

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Say_Ten wrote:

nice gear though. you should yolo exalt that 2nd ring with only 4 mods and try to get a resist out of it. id temporarily remove the elreon craft and block prefixes by crafting mana on there first. then you remove that shit after you exalt it, etc. if you're lucky you could slam it twice.