[HLD] Libritannia Vs lapriz (Video)

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Rupenus wrote:

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hauntworld1 wrote:

While it is great that this will offer a new way to deal with EA, it will also have a major drawback where current active elemental skills that are underused, that are somewhat too weak right now becomes even weaker if someones wear those types of amulet. Top elemental spells will be fine, like firestorm who recently got increased on the gem and it already deals enough damage. But if i take a look for exemple at fireball, magma orb, lightning ball, ice nova, incinerate, righteous fire into the abyss even more even tho its long gone, flame surge even whispering ice could potentially become too weak. Think about freezing pulse, who was the undisputed king of caster pvp not so long ago, became non-used after shotgun removal and this nerfs it even more.. ? idk i think we can say goodbye to it unless these skills receive a damage buff.

They should introduce more conversion gems like cold to fire, a best settup to counter such talismans are with a cold build using cold to fire and both penetration gem, somewhat negates all the talisman conversion unless it converts it to lightning. But unless the guy knows its just gambles.

On another side note this will make people struggle even more against tanky builds, i have a hard time chasing people down with FS and it's worse if they are tanky. This is just going to make it 10 times worst. It favors too much against one build but puts down many options on the side... thats the part that i dislike, i woulda liked a better way to deal with EA than this tbh without affecting so many other skills.

lightning damage is in good shape thanks to call of the brotherhood rings though. for tanky builds im not expert of fire spells but i'd use cwdt flame dash + flame surge. maybe with RF even.

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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

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Rupenus wrote:

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hauntworld1 wrote:

While it is great that this will offer a new way to deal with EA, it will also have a major drawback where current active elemental skills that are underused, that are somewhat too weak right now becomes even weaker if someones wear those types of amulet. Top elemental spells will be fine, like firestorm who recently got increased on the gem and it already deals enough damage. But if i take a look for exemple at fireball, magma orb, lightning ball, ice nova, incinerate, righteous fire into the abyss even more even tho its long gone, flame surge even whispering ice could potentially become too weak. Think about freezing pulse, who was the undisputed king of caster pvp not so long ago, became non-used after shotgun removal and this nerfs it even more.. ? idk i think we can say goodbye to it unless these skills receive a damage buff.

They should introduce more conversion gems like cold to fire, a best settup to counter such talismans are with a cold build using cold to fire and both penetration gem, somewhat negates all the talisman conversion unless it converts it to lightning. But unless the guy knows its just gambles.

On another side note this will make people struggle even more against tanky builds, i have a hard time chasing people down with FS and it's worse if they are tanky. This is just going to make it 10 times worst. It favors too much against one build but puts down many options on the side... thats the part that i dislike, i woulda liked a better way to deal with EA than this tbh without affecting so many other skills.

lightning damage is in good shape thanks to call of the brotherhood rings though. for tanky builds im not expert of fire spells but i'd use cwdt flame dash + flame surge. maybe with RF even.

Low life hardcounter lightning based spells though

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lapiz wrote:

how does call of the brotherhood help? :P sacrificing 2 jewelry pieces + penetration gem swap so you can get countered again by a simple tally swap?

EA is probably the only elemental skill that deals enough damage despite people using talismans.. seems like phys dmg will be king again, im looking at you ever so whiny RT melees!

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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:

Imo melees biggest problem is frost wall, which is a generic problem. Although I can see where people come from when they complain about high regen tanks and aegis builds but they can kill you either so it's not a real problem

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hauntworld1 wrote:

But then again these talismans need to make it to the main game... we'll see how it goes.

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lapiz wrote:

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hauntworld1 wrote:

But then again these talismans need to make it to the main game... we'll see how it goes.

You can rip them from THC already..

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lapiz wrote:

The real point is the talismans are already in the game and the balancing has been done. We just have to adjust accordingly once again.

These talismans are really good for pve as well for RF chars for an example