(3.2) [Lighty] 2H RT Cyclone: Dope for Beast League & Lab™
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I feel like i'm hitting a wall, first time not playing CI and I find myself dying a ton currently.
What's my next step in moving forward with my cycloner? https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Nahaxz/characters |
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So I've just changed around some of my gems. The only thing I'm not sure on now is if I should replace life on hit with ele weapon damage? I think I should right?
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Shaddolf/characters |
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Running this build as Slayer Duelist and I'm happy so far. Survivability is nice and I'm enjoying not dying all the time vs my other league builds that were pretty much paper.
I managed to get merc lab done pretty easily and even run it for like 10x a row but got tired of it as the drops very really bad vs maps. So I went on filling the atlas and grinding maps to get myself ready for uber lab, but I figure I didn't actually know what do I need to be ready for uber lab. So here's my question, what are the bare minimum stats I would want have to be able to farm uber lab?. I'm currently at 6k life and around 25k tooltip DPS (when all buffs on etc). In merc I didn't have many problems with Izaro, but the one time I tried Argus, it destroyed me. E: So I tried Uber-Lab today. Have around 6.1k hp and ~28k tooltip DPS when buffer. Died in the last Izaro phase (very close to culling him). I had troubles with him stunning me with his sword blows. So I could use some hints for uber lab (maybe switch to another curse? special unique item that would help, etc). I'm currently running the following gear:
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Last edited by Devil#3476 on Mar 14, 2017, 4:09:48 PM
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I am running this build as a juggernaut and it is probably the best league starter build I have ever played. I played a blade vortex shadow last league with a build done by LiftingNerdBro and it was really good too. I did not think there was a chance in hell that I would find a better build to start the league with ever but I was wrong. This is super fun too. I am writing this for 2 reasons. One to say thank you for the awesome build and reason two is I think the unique weapon Hiltless Reaver Sword should be added to the guide as an excellent weapon to start out the higher level content with until you can afford a disfavor or whatever you may be aiming for. I bought my hiltless reaver sword for 1 alch and managed to 5 link it super easily. It has blood magic on the weapon so I was effectively running a 6 link with over 400 pdps base on it right when I hit level 59. I am still using it as of writing this because it is working so well and I really like the Razer's Edge passive that gives 15% chance to cause bleeding on hit. But regardless of that passive its just a super cheap way to get a decent 6 link early and start doing uber lab. It has a pretty fast attack speed with 1.45 which is also good as I am still using life gain on hit. I one shot uber lab this time around on my first attempt. This may not sound like much of an achievement for some people but it was pretty cool for me as it usually takes me multiple attempts or a much higher level to complete.
On a side note, can anyone tell me how to link my gear on the forums? I really wanted to link my hiltless reaver here but I do not know how. I would also like some opinions on what to upgrade next. Thank you in advance. This build and the forums posts related to it have been fantastic. |
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" Catching back up here, but the reason I suggested Brass Dome is because he's a Juggernaut. First, he gets double armor off of it, which is a huge amount, and second, he can't be slowed below base movespeed, so having low movespeed bonuses isn't nearly the hinderance it is for regular Cyclone builds. In fact, it can actually speed up Cyclone if you don't have any movespeed, and you can always use quicksilver flasks (I run two of them while mapping easier content). Kaom's Heart is decent, but unfortunately a bit of a dated build now, since Cyclone can actually make great use out of the extra links (totem support). Last edited by Archimtiros#3795 on Mar 15, 2017, 4:43:42 AM
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" I don't run life on hit at all even at lower levels, but it's all based on whenever you feel like you're safe without it. At higher levels, you tend to operate well enough off of life regeneration and leech that LGOH is redundant. If you're gonna use HoA, AA, and Hatred, you'll need Blood Magic to use Blood Rage. Regarding your extra links, I run Warchief Totem for extra damage against strong targets. I'd also still recommend pushing for more health on your rares. Armor should be less of a concern with Unbreakable-Dome, but you could double to triple the amount of max life on most of your gear fairly easily. Last edited by Archimtiros#3795 on Mar 15, 2017, 5:23:03 AM
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" The build works fine for SSF, though (like most builds) you'll hit a speed bump once you get into maps until you find a good weapon. Since we can assume you'll be playing with rares more than unique weapons, any of them are viable really, though Swords tend to be the weaker option due to not needing accuracy. If you're using Maces you'll have access to Vaal Ground Slam, but you're probably using those links for a Totem anyway. Personally, I suggest simply not investing in weapon nodes until you have a weapon worth doing so. Likewise, Slayer is fine. Champion is a good ascendancy - stronger than most people think (I actually clock it as slightly higher overall dps than Slayer, especially pre-6L) though it lacks cull which is very strong against bosses, and defensively Champion focuses on mitigating damage via increased armor&evasion rather than healing via leech (which is strong against degen, etc). Ultimately, I can't really say which is strictly better, but both can be strong in their own rights. |
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" You'd have to search around a bit, but I actually wrote pretty extensively on using Hiltless (including a potential Undeniable-Juggernaut crit build). It's definitely a good weapon, though I personally favor Hezmana a bit more simply out of convenience; it can be expensive early in a league, but tends to drop rapidly in price after the first couple days. First, Hiltless Blood Magic only affects the socketed gems, so you actually have to socket Cyclone in it, whereas Hezmana affects all attacks including any Totems or Leap Slam. Second, the reflected damage isn't debilitating, but it can be notable (though high armor, E.charges, & immortal call typically handle that). Finally, Hiltless' increased range and attack speed are nice, but Hezmana has better pure DPS, elemental conversion, and it's typically easier to gear around Resolute Techniques than Accuracy/Crit. Last edited by Archimtiros#3795 on Mar 15, 2017, 5:03:14 AM
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" Get more armor, especially on your chest. Izaro is almost all physical damage, and Cyclone is really good for dodging his attacks since you can Cyclone right through him. Three health flasks is redundant, you really only need one (instant staunching for anti-bleed/emergencies), trade out for Granite/Basalt/Stibnite (for Izaro), extra Quicksilver (for clearing/general QoL), Atziri's Promise (for damage/leech), Taste of Hate (for damage/leech if you're rich). Regarding stuns; you can't be stunned while Cycloning, so if you're getting stunned it's because you stopped spinning... which is bad. Just spin in and out of his teleport, under him when he leap slams, through him when he slashes/shield slams, and you should be fine. Last thing, your links are kind of questionable. If you're doing Uber, you're long past the point where LGOH adds anything appreciable; drop it for Added Fire. You also don't need Blood Magic on Leap Slam while using Hezmana (it's classified as an attack, as are Totems), but you do need it on Stone Golem. While Stone Golem tends not to live very long past ~Tier 5 maps, it's a great distraction if you end up having to kite around on Izaro (and the extra life regen is good for healing trap damage in Labs). Finally, you can just run L1 CWDT with Warlord's Mark, it's far more reliable than COH-Vengeance. |
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Thanks for the replies Archimtiros.
Here is my profile now which hopefully you can see; https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Shaddolf/characters So should I ditch rallying cry (I don't seem to use it much) for AA? And then put blood magic gem in there instead of the increased duration support. I'd need blood magic linked to leap slam too. So my weapon 4links could be leap slam, AA, blood magic, blood rage. It means I lose out on faster attacks for leap slam though, unless there is another way I could juggle the gems? I've bought some new flasks today which I think give me a nice compliment of 5. As you've said, my biggest issue is life. I currently only have 3714 life. I could try get some boots and rings with more life, the trouble is just also keeping above res cap and keeping enough dexterity to use all the gems. I currently only just have enough dex (after putting a point into +10dex) so losing the 12 all attributes from my right ring isn't really on unless I can find another with it also. My resists are 89/89/80 so can only lose 14 fire / 14 cold / 5 lightning to stay capped. Also what did you mean that having less movement speed can make cyclone quicker? Last edited by Shaddolf#0993 on Mar 15, 2017, 8:41:47 AM
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