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andkamen wrote:
I can just about hit position 20 with my hc char if I que for a while on the hc/sc ladder. And thats me using my pve build without doing any changes to it. No gem swaps, no trap clearing mechanics, just a few aura swaps depending on opponent.

If I swapped my vaal gem for something defensive I might be able to defeat a few more people but I'm using a gimmicky cancer arrow build (pa) that is easy to counter by anyone decent enough or anyone that has enough movement speed/chasing power. Main reason is probably the fact that lvl 21 gems and lvl 4 empowers are impossible to get on hc and because I ripped with my last lvl 3 so it will be a while before I get a new one :P. But capped chaos and a vitality or CI would still shut me down probably.

Fortunately the HLD que is more alive than then lld one and I can get a decent amount of fights, even if I lost the majority. Im only kind of sad that half the people I can win against just quit after losing 1 round to me. RIP leo rep points



honestly the people that rage after one loss , are probably not the kind of people that care about leo points. plus the amount of leo point you get for wining is not that good, the points one gets for losing might as well not exist.

since the majority of matches have a clear winner before the match even starts , it really doesn't make sense to spend the next 5 minutes feeding the winner .
Last edited by Saltychipmunk#1430 on Mar 19, 2015, 12:21:33 PM
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andkamen wrote:
Im only kind of sad that half the people I can win against just quit after losing 1 round to me. RIP leo rep points


Against PA you either have an answer or you don't. No point trying to fight further than the first round if you can't counter it.
I also consider that build trash because it can bypass the player defense and is unavoidable, no skill requiered at all playing it, juste gas the whole area. Same as EA but at least you can negate PA effect to nothing (wich make the match even worse when the PA player, realizing he can't damage you at all, start to just run around wasting everyone time).
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Against PA you either have an answer or you don't. No point trying to fight further than the first round if you can't counter it.


Against many builds you know from the beginning if you stand a chance or not. Do you quit every time you see you don't have a chance and only stay in if you an stomp the other guy? There are almost always going to be builds that you can't beat but that doesn't mean that you have to just log every time after 1 loss. Just stay put another 30sec, die say gg and que up again.


PS. I'm not defending my use of cancer arrow but thats my only non ripped HC char left so I got nothing else to use :P



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since the majority of matches have a clear winner before the match even starts , it really doesn't make sense to spend the next 5 minutes feeding the winner .


if there is a clear winner then it should end in a minute. If it takes you 5 mins for the match then you actually stand a chance.
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andkamen wrote:

Against many builds you know from the beginning if you stand a chance or not. Do you quit every time you see you don't have a chance and only stay in if you an stomp the other guy?


Some games can be more complexe than it seem at first.A switch of gear, different arena layouts, better positionning than the other player... Sometimes you can play around even if you had a bad start.

Against PA you can't do that. If you dont have enought regen/chaos resist, your life will drop to zero once you set foot in the invisible poison cloud and even if by miracle you manage to get a kill while drinking all your pots, you are pretty much done for the other rounds where the PA user can just cover his position then the entire arena leaving no safe area.

It's not a fun situation trust me so i totally understand people ragequitting the game (and i've been on both side of this build).
Last edited by IceDeal#5895 on Mar 19, 2015, 2:37:51 PM
PA is so easy to counter though, using 2 mings and some other chaos res piece and you can stand there laughing at them
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Tommie_Sjukskriven wrote:
PA is so easy to counter though, using 2 mings and some other chaos res piece and you can stand there laughing at them


Exactly, you either facetank the skill or be completly obliterated by it.
or you deal good enough damage and kill them before they kill you. (ive had such duels)


My point is still stands that just because you are losing you shouldn't be quitting. Doesn't matter if its cancer arrow/aids arrow or some caster or melee that is wrecking you.
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andkamen wrote:
or you deal good enough damage and kill them before they kill you. (ive had such duels)


My point is still stands that just because you are losing you shouldn't be quitting. Doesn't matter if its cancer arrow/aids arrow or some caster or melee that is wrecking you.


I agree, if you get into pvp expecting to win against everything with 1 build, youre gonna have a bad time
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lllllDethkloklllll wrote:
Those of us who care about PvP have been dumping all of our currency into making PvP characters. If your too poor to compete this season you better start saving now for any future seasons.

Also people need to stop believing you need all mirrored/legacy gear to be competitive. It just goes to who you how little some people actually know.



Your first paragraph directly contradicts your second paragraph.

Just saying.
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Odoakar wrote:
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lllllDethkloklllll wrote:
Those of us who care about PvP have been dumping all of our currency into making PvP characters. If your too poor to compete this season you better start saving now for any future seasons.

Also people need to stop believing you need all mirrored/legacy gear to be competitive. It just goes to who you how little some people actually know.



Your first paragraph directly contradicts your second paragraph.

Just saying.


No it doesn't.

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