[3.10] Sovyn's Lazy Pally - Tanky Templar with Max Block

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Everything you do is sub-optimal.
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nbriles2000 wrote:
For the most part, things have been going great with this char since I came back and started following your build and I was really discouraged with my Temp before! You're awesome, thanks a lot!


Glad to hear it! You're welcome. :D
Now I would say that these are better results, I will be getting a Vaal Buckler when I find one to max out my block and I have 31% avasion with Grace? isnt that how I get my max evade? and Yes I am pretty solid now but I do have 6k dps but obviously I need better gear to achieve higher? because I mean my gear isnt too great I guess xD

LINK : http://imgur.com/q3grFRB&i3VL7Eh

one thing I want to know is how am i supposed to be able to use 2 auras with while running mana leech using the Slither pinch Bronze scale Gauntlets? with 100 mana left over after using determination too I just cant do it. Or running hatred for the DPS for that matter. I am guessing 6k dps is solid and now its just gear? :)

EDIT : I noticed i only got 65% fire resi, I will be buying a ring with fire resi and some phyical damage to max that out dont worry guiz :D plus my endurance charges have me covered for now.
Last edited by siontheman#0420 on Nov 7, 2013, 2:51:54 PM
Hi, i am sorry if this is already addressed, I have one question. It is heavily implied that one doesn't really need an aoe skill, but I found that ground slam (my aoe skill) clears through packs much faster than heavy strike (my single target skill). Ist because I am low lvl yet (lvl 33, and obviously a new player)? I wonder how you clear waves of monster fast with just a single-target skill, especially since melee splash isn't suggested.
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siontheman wrote:
Now I would say that these are better results, I will be getting a Vaal Buckler when I find one to max out my block and I have 31% avasion with Grace? isnt that how I get my max evade? and Yes I am pretty solid now but I do have 6k dps but obviously I need better gear to achieve higher? because I mean my gear isnt too great I guess xD

LINK : http://imgur.com/q3grFRB&i3VL7Eh

one thing I want to know is how am i supposed to be able to use 2 auras with while running mana leech using the Slither pinch Bronze scale Gauntlets? with 100 mana left over after using determination too I just cant do it. Or running hatred for the DPS for that matter. I am guessing 6k dps is solid and now its just gear? :)

EDIT : I noticed i only got 65% fire resi, I will be buying a ring with fire resi and some phyical damage to max that out dont worry guiz :D plus my endurance charges have me covered for now.


Yes, it's looking better. When you get a high evasion shield with high block (38% is ideal, but 37% will do) you will be in good shape.

6K DPS is fine, and will get better if you stick with it and gather some wealth.

I run grace and determination no problem and have only 57 mana left. My 2% mana leech keeps me in enough mana to be able to able to chain the skill and never have a bum swing. I use heavy strike + multistrike + faster attacks + melee physical damage. Adding splash would probably break the budget unless I am surrounded by mobs then it would work. Not good for single targets though. My current combo works for both. You could use my combo and just add blind (uses no additional mana), which works great with evasion. Assuming you can't sustain with added fire damage or melee damage on full life or the like, blind is a good choice.
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GermanosKaraflas wrote:
Hi, i am sorry if this is already addressed, I have one question. It is heavily implied that one doesn't really need an aoe skill, but I found that ground slam (my aoe skill) clears through packs much faster than heavy strike (my single target skill). Ist because I am low lvl yet (lvl 33, and obviously a new player)? I wonder how you clear waves of monster fast with just a single-target skill, especially since melee splash isn't suggested.


Welcome, GermanosKaraflas! :)

Multistrike causes heavy strike to swing 3 times instead of once and alternate between nearby targets. Faster attacks makes this go like crazy. So an all-in-one AOE skill is not required in the end game. It probably is helpful while leveling up. I think I got by with Infernal Blow and some mana flasks back then. Ground slam is good but requires a mace, which will be harder to upgrade as you level up.
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Sovyn wrote:
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siontheman wrote:
Now I would say that these are better results, I will be getting a Vaal Buckler when I find one to max out my block and I have 31% avasion with Grace? isnt that how I get my max evade? and Yes I am pretty solid now but I do have 6k dps but obviously I need better gear to achieve higher? because I mean my gear isnt too great I guess xD

LINK : http://imgur.com/q3grFRB&i3VL7Eh

one thing I want to know is how am i supposed to be able to use 2 auras with while running mana leech using the Slither pinch Bronze scale Gauntlets? with 100 mana left over after using determination too I just cant do it. Or running hatred for the DPS for that matter. I am guessing 6k dps is solid and now its just gear? :)

EDIT : I noticed i only got 65% fire resi, I will be buying a ring with fire resi and some phyical damage to max that out dont worry guiz :D plus my endurance charges have me covered for now.


Yes, it's looking better. When you get a high evasion shield with high block (38% is ideal, but 37% will do) you will be in good shape.

6K DPS is fine, and will get better if you stick with it and gather some wealth.

I run grace and determination no problem and have only 57 mana left. My 2% mana leech keeps me in enough mana to be able to able to chain the skill and never have a bum swing. I use heavy strike + multistrike + faster attacks + melee physical damage. Adding splash would probably break the budget unless I am surrounded by mobs then it would work. Not good for single targets though. My current combo works for both. You could use my combo and just add blind (uses no additional mana), which works great with evasion. Assuming you can't sustain with added fire damage or melee damage on full life or the like, blind is a good choice.


Yeah, if i try to use any other gem I don't get enough mana back, And yeah I have 60 mana so nearly the same as yours I can run 2 auras but only if I use the same links as you but I run 6.4k DPS So I am ok, Just gunna save for a ring with fire, phyical dmg and maybe more mana leech or high mana/intel increase :D I think that should work. And yes I am TRYING to find a Vaal Buckler but he just will not drop LOL.
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Sovyn wrote:
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Saviourself wrote:

And lastly, finally had some luck!





Nice belt! If it had 200+ armour too, it would be amazing.

The Anvil is great in my testing but I do not care for crawling around. :) Not too bad with 30% run speed boots though, especially with regular use of shield charge/leap slam. Well, I don't like the slower swing speed either, but it's good stats are very nice. We do lose quite a lot of spell block by choosing The Anvil over Lazhwar however. I think I'll stick with Lazhwar. :) Good option though, if one has it.


Yeah, it's not the perfect belt type (would have preferred +phs dmg) but in the meantime, I've shed the extra resist rings for a pair of amethyst ones with some chaos resist that I've been wanting to run for a while...



I picked up Laz a while back for one alc (score!) so it definitely get's some time on the front line.

edit: the second ring makes infernal blow freaking awesome (pulled 3 endurance stone golems on to the twin banner bosses in arcade on low health, popped all 3 and it all but one shot the bosses... =). Mana is the big issue as I'm still trying to secure a multistrike /sadface, so blood magic stays in place for the time being.
Last edited by Saviourself#3486 on Nov 7, 2013, 4:51:07 PM
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siontheman wrote:

And yes I am TRYING to find a Vaal Buckler but he just will not drop LOL.


They drop somewhat often in 67 maps, but forget trying to find a decent rare one as a drop -- have to craft it if self found or just buy one ready to go. Corrugated Buckler works too if the evasion roll is OK (400 is good).

I see there are 6 bucklers for sale on standard and 3 for sale on Domination that meet my critera. Some have low evasion, some have life, maybe 1 or 2 are pretty nice.

Or you can roll a high item level white vaal buckler with chaos or alch/scour until you land at least 5% block affix (6% is ideal). This can get expensive, but not bad if you are lucky at all. Cheaper would be alterations, see my shield as an example:



Ignore the blind gem, I'm just leveling it.

Believe it or not, this is an excellent shield when wielded by a lazy pally.
Hello again Sovyn, and fellow exiles! Today I've come here to make a pretty long post, but if you have the time.. especially Sovyn, I would appreciate it.

First I will begin with linking my current gear :

GEAR
Spoiler


Second, my current Passive Tree :
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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUAAdwB5wSzBS0UIBRxGNsaMho4G_odFCFgI00l3ydPKMU26DrYQDZAoEGqRHJKyEw1TdhPfVBHUWBT31b6WK9Y21nzW69gS2aebmluqnB9cql0QXTtdPF313gNeu982X8rgFaBb4TEhNmE74x2j0aQVZuDnjyeuaIApBmnMKeEqW6playqrK-0-bXyvoq-p8APwBrDhtDQ0k3Wit0N55HsOO4O8B_xivO-9zL46_rS_MU=




As you can see, I'm geared up pretty well. I'm almost ready for end-game, I only need a new, better 3L Shield, link it with Immortal Call+Increased Duration+Levelled up Cast when Damage Taken gem and I would be done.. or rather almost done. Maybe in the future I would be lucky enough to stumble upon a Soul Taker, who knows? :P

Anyways, just when I was starting to think my character is reaching it's pinnacle as far as gear goes, I am presented with a dilemma. I am simply not able to run both Determination AND Grace simultaneously!! Simply put, I don't have enough mana to sustain my enormous chain of support gems pre-included with the Bringer of Rain and attached to my Heavy Strike.

That being said, my character is simply a killing machine. I could describe him with only 1 sentence : "He tore through their souls with waves of fire & gore." I also didn't touch one single, miserable sip of health potion throughout. But if that sentence doesn't do it for you, I present you a video, of my level 70 Lazy Pally, HalfSaint. In the short video clip hereunder, I am at the Ebony Barracks, Act 3 Merciless, soloing General Gravicius. In the first few seconds of the video, I show what the dilemma I am faced with, is. I run try to run both Determination and Grace, having about 90% of my mana reserved for those 2 auras, and simply put, my Heavy Strike doesn't take/work. It's as if I'm doing a normal, slow, boring attack. Then, I turn off Grace, and watch the blood showers.

Killing General Gravicius Act 3 Merciless Solo Level 70


Note how in the video, while battling General Gravicius, at 3:18 you can hear "My mana is spent.", the accursed voice saying that I am out of mana. This happens from time to time, but as you can see, it makes absolutely no difference to my attacks. It lasts a split second, my mana globe starts refilling instantly and in abundance. I believe my Pure Physical 264 DPS weapon saves me from serious Mana depletion. I fear if most of my weapon's DPS was Elemental, I would face serious mana problems as the Mana Leech from Slitherpinch doesn't take into account Elemental Damage. So guys, go with Pure Physical Weapons, or prepare to link a Mana Leech gem to your Heavy Strike/Whatever Gem!!!


I would like help to overcome this little dilemma as to what I can do to be able to run both Determination AND Grace, because Grace feels such a waste to me now. I believe it would make me much better at surviving, although I am already a tank, given that I didn't even drink 1 sip of health potion against General Gravicius.

DILEMMA NO.2

That is the first point basically. The second point is... based on the video, passive tree and my current equipment above should I go with Lioneye's Remorse or Daresso's Courage?

I am currently at Tri-Max-Res (75% Resistance to Fire, Cold & Lightning).

i)Lioneye's Remorse Advantages I currently See :

*Much more ARMOR. Especially when I take the Precise Interception and Weapon Artistry nodes along with the rest of the shield nodes, at level 75-76. (These :http://s15.postimg.org/jcdmqacqz/Precise_Interception_Weapon_Artistry.jpg)

Disadvantages :

*A very minor one. I would still have 75% Resistance to Fire & Lightning but I would remain with 71% Cold Resistance if I go with Lioneye's instead of Daresso's.
*No Evasion Bonus.


ii)Daresso's Courage Advantages I currently See :

*I will stay at Tri-Max-Res.
**20% Increased Physical Damage.
***A little bit more Evasion.

Disadvantages :

*Much Less Armor.

That's all for now :P
A final thanks to you Sovyn, for this wonderful build!

1 Eternal = 2 Exalted (ex)
1 Exalted (ex) = 10 Gemcutter's Prism (GCP) = 22 Chaos = 220 Chromatic
Last edited by KnightOfTheLost#5987 on Nov 7, 2013, 8:02:30 PM

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