[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

Hi guys, does anybody know if shrapnel shot works with this build? Thanx in advance

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Casia wrote:

I feel I need to make a counterpoint, to myself.

Discussing the power and value of armor, its relation to acrobatics, and pathfinder, I should have mentioned Taste of hate.

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Taste_of_Hate

Legacy on standard is 30% of physical damage taken as cold damage.
New ones are 20% of physical damage taken as cold damage.

This does of course provide a very strong physical damage DR, without armor.
this 20 or 30% also of course scales with flask effect.
And, if pathfinder-master alch, immune to chill/frozen, so the incoming cold will not chill/freeze you.
Raider can also get this of course as well. Deadeye can not, and must use an "of heat".

A basic granite is more common imho. But if you have access to, and are running a taste of hate, you have an argument for getting acrobatics.

Hey Casia,

I see you advertising pathfinder alot in combination with TS. I build a BV pathfinder and Im loving the ascendancy, but dont like the way BV plays. Cant get myself to spam cast between packs and love the feeling of shooting into packs with a good old bow.

So Im thinking of switching it up and building another ranger. Only thing is, I always preferred LA over TS mechanically. Would you still recommend pathfinder over deadeye for LA? What should also be mentioned is that Im running SSF. Id love to get to T16 maps eventually and want to choose a bow build that can get me there.

Cheers

I don't have any LA experience. I can't comment on that directly.

Pathfinder is very universal though. The defensive gains from flasks apply to pretty much any build.
And vet bowyer applies to any elemental build, while master herbalist can be powerful for any physical damage one.

I have a CoC deadeye. the chain is pretty invaluable in making it effective. That would be tough to make use of as a pathfinder.

Blastrain and iceshot both actually have nice pathfinder and deadeye synergies in +aoe size.
deadeye itself has +20% size in endless muntions.
While for the pathfinder, the +aoe in Witch is right next to the +flask effect. Giving you justification for going up there.
Pathfinder can get +projectiles, +aoe, damage.. but can't replace deadeye chain.

LA has the AoE tag. does that just effect size, or damage as well?

in guide you say if you use a TS-deadeye you have insane single target damge with only TS. so that you prefer to secondary attack if we dont need another single target dps spell?

What unique bows would you use in essence league?

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Casia wrote:

I don't have any LA experience. I can't comment on that directly.

Pathfinder is very universal though. The defensive gains from flasks apply to pretty much any build.
And vet bowyer applies to any elemental build, while master herbalist can be powerful for any physical damage one.

I have a CoC deadeye. the chain is pretty invaluable in making it effective. That would be tough to make use of as a pathfinder.

Blastrain and iceshot both actually have nice pathfinder and deadeye synergies in +aoe size.
deadeye itself has +20% size in endless muntions.
While for the pathfinder, the +aoe in Witch is right next to the +flask effect. Giving you justification for going up there.
Pathfinder can get +projectiles, +aoe, damage.. but can't replace deadeye chain.

LA has the AoE tag. does that just effect size, or damage as well?

I can't comment on the AoE tag referring to juse size or damage, but I CAN chime in on this discussion.

I do have LA experience. I was using Crit Voltaxic LA in Prophecy League. I'm certain that if your crit was decent enough (running Assassins Mark, either from Curse on hit with Herald of Ice or maybe a Split arrow Curse on hit for some power charges and Assassins Mark 8% extra chance for enemies to be crit would guarantee this) you'd have no problem generating the crits to make Pathfinder work with LA if you wanted to.

Of course, if you're going Voltaxic you're going to want to run Herald of Thunder and Wrath, but you definitely don't have to go Voltaxic for LA.

Returning after a long hiatus.

Would this be a reasonable skill tree progression for Champion:

41 Points

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQDAAYjCIkVIBXsGbQj9i2DMHwylE2SUUddaHsUfXV_AorwjX2Nv5S4lQWa8aGko4qm4KfUsKu5HbvjvqfEgsSiyqnTftQj2cbh2-969qP5Y_66_sg=

57 Points

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQDAAW1BiMIiRUgFewWvxm0I_YmlS2DMHwylDY9TZJRR11oYeJsjG1sdf17FH11fwKEb4rwjX2Nv5S4lQWa8Z2qoaSjiqbgp9Swq7VIuR27476nwUnEgsSiyNzKqdN-1CPUQtnG4dvndOjW73r2o_lj_h3-uv7I

80 Points

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQDAAW1BiMIiQqbFSAV7Ba_GbQhdiP2JP0mlS2DMHwx-jKUNj051D7PTZJRR1T-VUtbr11oYeJsjG1scFJ1_Xb3eOt7FH11fwJ_K4Rvhs6J04rwjDaNfY2_lLiVBZrxnaqgn6GkpuCn1LCrtUi5Hbvjvea-p8EzwUnEgsSiyNzKqdN-1CPUQtnG3Q3h2-cK51TndOjW73r2o_lj_h3-uv7I_94=

90 Points

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQDAAW1BiMIiQqbDY0V7Ba_IXYj9iT9JpUwcTB8MfoylDY9OdQ6Qj7PQzFLeEz_TZJOKlFHVP5VS1oaW69daGHibIxtbHBSdct1_Xb3eOt7FH11fwJ_K4Rvhs6J04rwjDaNfY1-jb-UuJUFmvGdqqCfoaSm4KfUsKu1SLkdu-O95r6nwTPBScMzxILEosjcyqnNmNN-1CPUQtnG3ajh2-cK51TndOjW6mLvevlj_MX-Hf66_sj_3g==

106 Points

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQDAAUtBbUGIwiJCpsNjRXsFr8hdiPTI_Yk_SaVMHEwfDH6MpQ2PTnUOkI-z0MxR35KfUt4TP9Nkk4qUUdU_lVLVYVaGluvXWhh4mKsZU1sjG1sbydwUnTtdct1_Xb3eOt673sUfXV_An8rhG-Gzod2idOK8Iw2jX2Nfo2_lLiVBZpqmvGdqqCfoaSly6bgp9Swq7VIuR274702vea-p8EzwUnDM8SCxKLI3MqpzZjTftQj1ELZxtrB3ajh2-Of5wrnVOd06NbqYu96-WP8xf4d_rr-yP_e

I tried to stick as closely to the given tree/point cutoffs.

I wouldn't skip those life nodes. Even with fortify.

99% of the time, I go life first.

This is my thoughts on optimizing some of your pathing.
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQDAAUtBbUGIwiJDY0V7Ba_IXYj0yP2JP0mlSyUMHwx-jKUNj051D7PQzFHfkp9TP9Nkk4qUUdVS1WFWhpbr11oYeJiF2KsZU1r1GyMcFJ07XXLdf1293rvexR71H11fwJ_K4RvhJSGzod2iXGJ04rwjDaNfY1-jb-PYJS4lQWa8Z2qoJ-hpKOKpcum4KfUqs2wq7TFtUi5HbvjvTa95r6nwTPC7MMzxILEosqpzZjTftRC2cbaweHb45_nVOpi62PsXO4O-WP8xf66_sj_3g==

I'm not sure if Neversinks builds are totally current. his first build has essence sap, his "augmented" one just has duelist dual leech. that Dual leech node is all you need now its attack damage.

I've been dropping quickstep out of all my builds. partially, due to taking druidic rite in all of them. and partially, deciding point for point its bad.

I have to say it. Champion gets 90% armor/eva in ascendancy. +duelist nodes. (And 200%armr/eva on low life.) I don't think acrobatics is a good idea. why would you intentionally half that armor?

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Casia wrote:

I don't have any LA experience. I can't comment on that directly.

Pathfinder is very universal though. The defensive gains from flasks apply to pretty much any build.
And vet bowyer applies to any elemental build, while master herbalist can be powerful for any physical damage one.

I have a CoC deadeye. the chain is pretty invaluable in making it effective. That would be tough to make use of as a pathfinder.

Blastrain and iceshot both actually have nice pathfinder and deadeye synergies in +aoe size.
deadeye itself has +20% size in endless muntions.
While for the pathfinder, the +aoe in Witch is right next to the +flask effect. Giving you justification for going up there.
Pathfinder can get +projectiles, +aoe, damage.. but can't replace deadeye chain.

LA has the AoE tag. does that just effect size, or damage as well?

I thought about it a bit longer and I might just start out with TS pathfinder and respec into LA once I acquire better gear. As I said, playing SSF and LA might just be harder to gear for. I really like the pathfinder idea.

I throw together a tree that goes up to the witch area, mind having a look on it?
Im not taking arcane chemistry, but rather profane chemistry in order to reach a bit more life.

www.poeurl.com/Lxi

Stats in shor for 91 level treet:
Life: +178%
Crit Chance: +110%
3 jewels with access to 2 more if >91
2 frenzy charges from tree (not sure if I should even bother with these and go for other nodes instead)

Cheers
P

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Casia wrote:

I wouldn't skip those life nodes. Even with fortify.

99% of the time, I go life first.

This is my thoughts on optimizing some of your pathing.
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAQDAAUtBbUGIwiJDY0V7Ba_IXYj0yP2JP0mlSyUMHwx-jKUNj051D7PQzFHfkp9TP9Nkk4qUUdVS1WFWhpbr11oYeJiF2KsZU1r1GyMcFJ07XXLdf1293rvexR71H11fwJ_K4RvhJSGzod2iXGJ04rwjDaNfY1-jb-PYJS4lQWa8Z2qoJ-hpKOKpcum4KfUqs2wq7TFtUi5HbvjvTa95r6nwTPC7MMzxILEosqpzZjTftRC2cbaweHb45_nVOpi62PsXO4O-WP8xf66_sj_3g==

I'm not sure if Neversinks builds are totally current. his first build has essence sap, his "augmented" one just has duelist dual leech. that Dual leech node is all you need now its attack damage.

I've been dropping quickstep out of all my builds. partially, due to taking druidic rite in all of them. and partially, deciding point for point its bad.

I have to say it. Champion gets 90% armor/eva in ascendancy. +duelist nodes. (And 200%armr/eva on low life.) I don't think acrobatics is a good idea. why would you intentionally half that armor?

Can you do a WR/Elemental tree?