[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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Hornhollow wrote:

tl/dr : I got the Hope fragment last night - should I go for it, or should I try to get a bit more life/damage first?

To be honest I think your dps is to low to take on Uber. If it was double of what you got now then maybe...

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Dkodr wrote:

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Hornhollow wrote:

tl/dr : I got the Hope fragment last night - should I go for it, or should I try to get a bit more life/damage first?

To be honest I think your dps is to low to take on Uber.

I know it is not a strict science, but can you give me some rough values to aim for?

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Hornhollow wrote:

I know it is not a strict science, but can you give me some rough values to aim for?

Read some of my old posts here...

http://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-posts/Dkodr/page/4

hi

anyone can say tactik for two vaal on uber atziri?

cant kill him too much damage with multiple balllighting

my dps 26k tornado gmp
72k mono burning arrow
4k life

people how kill uber give me a tips plz

=)


my stuff

Run anti-clockwise against Vaal's, the ball lightning spell always shoots anti-clockwise so if you follow the movement you will be less likely to be hit. Get both Vaal's on low life at the same time so the agro phase of the last one is as short as possible. Always move, never stand still except when its safe to shoot. Try to do as much damage as possible in the beginning when they activate, use
andfor extra damage with Vaal Haste.

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mirko92 wrote:

hi

anyone can say tactik for two vaal on uber atziri?

cant kill him too much damage with multiple balllighting

my dps 26k tornado gmp
72k mono burning arrow
4k life

people how kill uber give me a tips plz

=)


my stuff

I'd recommend to run at least 1 topaz flask. (shock removal/surgeon)

Use Blink arrow or smoke trap to have another failsafe escape. Move counterclockwise as it was mentioned, also never kill them at once. Kill minions for flask charges.

It's mostly about learning to evade the balls, once you'll become more proficient at it, the fight becomes much more managable. I've done uber with 16k TS DPS, so as long as you're OK at dodging, you should be fine.

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Y0UR wrote:

I've done uber with 16k TS DPS, so as long as you're OK at dodging, you should be fine.

After 1.3?

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Dkodr wrote:

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alexvsevil wrote:

im pretty much using all the recommended gear (even have inc crit multi on amulet) but still only have 350 crit multi on tornado shot with crit chance of 61% - if i switch ts gem from crit strike chance to crit multi i drop to 42% crit chance, so i dont think thats worth...what gives? tree is identical too, and im level 87 so a few points into resist nodes near the bottom of the duelist area, a bit of life nodes and int...do those need to be respecced to multiplier some where to get that 550%?

What does your tooltip say? Use the crit multi gem instead of crit chance gem, Get crit chance from power charges by using assassins mark. Do some testing and see what gives the highest tooltip dps.

http://i.imgur.com/uzVUGp7.jpg

the thing is, on the first page it says under Damage Mechanics:

Short version:
550%+ crit mult, 55%+ crit chance, large number of variations, 3 offensive auras/heralds. We shoot, things die.

-Crit multipliers of 550% with the tree and gems alone.

so what confuses me is, why am i so far off of the target with tree and gems alone, not even taking into consideration the fact that i have not only additional crit chance and multi on gear, but from tree as well since im a higher level than the core requires?

is it because 55%/550% doesn't happen from the core alone, but at like level 97 when you can branch out into far more crit based nodes? i guess that would make sense. or maybe in order to achieve that 550% crit multi you need to sacrifice a lot of crit chance on tornado shot (IE, I'd drop from 61% using critical strikes gem, to 47% using crit multi gem)

it's not a big deal really, my dmg is quite nice, just trying to figure it out and i would love to be able to get another 100%+ crit multi without dropping under 50% crit chance.

The guide was made before a patch that nerfed crit multi in the skill tree and on the gem, it's probably not updated on that part. What is your dps with crit multi gem compared to crit chance gem? Remember that power charges gives 50% crit chance pr. charge, but not crit multi.

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Dkodr wrote:

The guide was made before a patch that nerfed crit multi in the skill tree and on the gem, it's probably not updated on that part. What is your dps with crit multi gem compared to crit chance gem? Remember that power charges gives 50% crit chance pr. charge, but not crit multi.

oh ok well if those numbers are from 1.2 that would explain why im SO FAR OFF lol.

my dps with crit multi is like 12k and with crit chance gem instead its only 11.5k and tbh i think having ~15% crit chance is better than higher crit dmg cuz i blow things up anyway on crits, so id rather just crit more often if things are melting either way.

and i never get power charges....with 93 mana left after 3 auras, 5l tornado shot costing like 24 mana, and even 3% mana leech on gear, it's really hard to afford to attack after casting assassins mark lol D: