Fix Conversion Trap

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andkamen wrote:

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Oats_PT wrote:

@greendude
If echo is used in lld then I have no doubt in my mind that he would be unbeatable. Although it would be refreshing to see the meta shift towards casters in lld.

Although its refreshing to see change, shifting from 1 build domination all to another domination all is still bad.

What I'd like to see more is a rock-paper-scissors type of thing where no build can defeat all other builds relatively easy. That will just make most people stick to 1-2 builds and ultimately kills diversity imo

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Rhys wrote:

We don't want to remove it entirely (i.e. make it not work on players) but the ability to convert opponents almost constantly is too strong/too abusable. The fact that it is banned outright in at least some dedicated PvP circles is telling.

It is an interesting skill to use against summoners, though.

One possible solution we were debating is to have Conversion Trap only work once per player per round (for Arena matches, not CTF/FFA). So it would still have some utility but couldn't be spammed constantly. (It's also extremely easy to implement, which is a bonus - at least for us :P)

I suppose we could dramatically reduce the duration when used on players, but then I suspect people would just never use it (on players), so that first idea is probably more interesting.

What do you guys think about this? Or do you have any other ideas?

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JunGunz wrote:

I like the idea of limiting it to one use per round. :D
This would allow the user to use it in an emergency such as when they are down to almost no life.

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GreenDude wrote:

As long as it works on players; I can guarantee that at least in teams tournaments it will always be successfully banned via voting.