[3.1] JUGGERNAUT/BERSERKER 1H+Shield Max Block&Spell Block Tank, Atziri Killer+a BoR version

Just tried Herald of Ash, and it is excellent. It would be great if we could run simultaneously Hatred+Determination+Herald of Ash, but that doesn't seem possible.

Very weak and disappointing build so far. Unable to solo even the guards before Normal Dom.

Just a heads up in case anyone is trying to level with this.

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ComradeSerge wrote:

Just tried Herald of Ash, and it is excellent. It would be great if we could run simultaneously Hatred+Determination+Herald of Ash, but that doesn't seem possible.

Hi Comrade,

I am using the following tree at the moment:



I got a Soul Taker and with the reduced mana node towards Sovereignty, it is possible for me to run Hatred+Determination+Herald of Ash. It is of course necessary to take the two nodes towards Sovereignty and drop two other nodes, but I found the possibility to run Herald of Ash in addition to Hatred+Determination definitely worth the two points.
What do you think?
It leaves you with more or less 0 mana of course, so it's only possible if you got a Soul Taker.

Hey there Serge, checking in with more questions about this build.

It's nice that this build is tanky and blocky. I am now level 85 and am both satisfied with my DPS/speed for certain maps and see room for improvement in my gear. But it'd cost too many exalts for me to bother with. Is what I pay going to really pay off with a character like this, or could I get more bang for my buck with a different build?

What I have isn't enough in almost every respect. I went into Death and Taxes on the second boss (there was another person as well, though they didn't do anything), and although I was able to kill it very slowly with Atziri's Promise and a lot of recharged flasks from the spawned mobs, the other two bosses proved to be too difficult for me. Good thing someone with actual tankiness and DPS (Reave build, his HP never even went down) killed the others.

I was hoping the tankiness would be enough, but if it can't tank DnT, it probably can't tank the upcoming Grandmasters map, even with a gimpy Aegis and 2k armor (I blame Tabula and Rainbowstride).

It also does horribly in parties when I'm doing Zanas.

Questions:

1). Does DPS hit a wall? Will it only ever really be as high as your optimized DPS gear/tree? The focus is tankiness, but if the DPS only goes that high, high end mapping will be almost impossible due to chunky damage from the boss and low DPS from me. Will it ever compare to low life ST, CoC, puncture, anything? Several other melee splash marauders seem to have tooltips of 70k easily.

2). How can I be more tanky, enough to tank weak bosses like the ones in Death and Taxes? The only options seem to be: "Get a decent 6L chest and/or a 4% spellblock Lazhwar". There's also the matter of leech, where I can't fight bosses for long because I don't have DPS/life leech, so once the flasks are out, all it takes to kill me is unlucky chunk damage.

Here is gear and build:

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barkmarket wrote:

Very weak and disappointing build so far. Unable to solo even the guards before Normal Dom.

Just a heads up in case anyone is trying to level with this.

Then you're doing something wrong :) if you link your gear and tree, we could help you, since you probably have a very bad weapon or something similar is the case.

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Peon wrote:

I got a Soul Taker and with the reduced mana node towards Sovereignty, it is possible for me to run Hatred+Determination+Herald of Ash. It is of course necessary to take the two nodes towards Sovereignty and drop two other nodes, but I found the possibility to run Herald of Ash in addition to Hatred+Determination definitely worth the two points.
What do you think?
It leaves you with more or less 0 mana of course, so it's only possible if you got a Soul Taker.

Herald of Ash is indeed very nice, so it's definitely worth it if you can run all 3. It synergizes well with all the WED and increased fire damage this build has.

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Epee wrote:

I was hoping the tankiness would be enough, but if it can't tank DnT, it probably can't tank the upcoming Grandmasters map, even with a gimpy Aegis and 2k armor (I blame Tabula and Rainbowstride).

You can't expect to be tanky with a Tabula.

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Epee wrote:

1). Does DPS hit a wall? Will it only ever really be as high as your optimized DPS gear/tree? The focus is tankiness, but if the DPS only goes that high, high end mapping will be almost impossible due to chunky damage from the boss and low DPS from me. Will it ever compare to low life ST, CoC, puncture, anything?

No. If you want 70k dps, you might as well start some other build right now.

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Epee wrote:

2). How can I be more tanky, enough to tank weak bosses like the ones in Death and Taxes? The only options seem to be: "Get a decent 6L chest and/or a 4% spellblock Lazhwar". There's also the matter of leech, where I can't fight bosses for long because I don't have DPS/life leech, so once the flasks are out, all it takes to kill me is unlucky chunk damage.

Get a normal chest instead of a tabula. For leech, you can get it either on the tree, which is a waste, although it is nearby, or get it on gear, which is my recommendation. Buy rings and/or gloves with life leech.

I stopped playing after Domination League, now I´m back to the game and decided to give HC a try with this build, but starting as templar and running maces because, well i like the style.

I have come up with this tree (like to plan the very final version):

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgUBAecCcQSzBS0FWwY5DF8M9w4UFFIU9hZvGekaOBpVHKchNCNNJKonLyftMok0jjboNuk64TwtQDZBh0RyR35N2E99UWBR5lOlU99X4ljbWfNeH18_X8pgS2DEYSFko2VNZp5nm2vZbBZuaXKpdO1343flecB673zZfuKAVoFvhMSE2YTvhjuHGYx2kFWZK5uDnjyexaC0ogCmV6eEqZWsqqyvrj60L7T5tz68n72BvqfAD8AawQTDhsQVxLjE9sauy0PSTdX42L3cHd7B42rjn-RR55Hp1ew47tnvDvAf8kXzBvno-tL7qvxL_gr_0w==

Plan on taking 40 life/skill/skill from bandits.

Any advises for optimizing the tree?

Might be fine, aside from the fact that you speced 119 points, while you have 117 points with this build, even if you somehow manage to get to level 100, which is not realistic :) you have 117 and not 120 cause you take oak oak oak for bandits.

This is great ! Thanks a lot.