Great job listening to group juice farmer streamers. Now look at the div price in chaos

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

Love the casual complete mis-characterization of "Price" versus "Value"

Prices are perfectly fine: the only thing currently down this league is the inherent value of a single chaos orb. So what?

If its true that divine drops and overall divines are lower than previous leagues, the market has already reflected that reality and balanced around buyers having less to work with. Leaving actual "pricing" not much different from any other league.
I would bet though that this simply ISN'T true, and its a reflection of the inflexibility of a player unwilling to change what they were used to in previous leagues.

Sure, your chaos orb drops alone are worth less. Good. There are, and have always been, many other currencies. I'd also add that you failed to account for the fact that there is a heck of a lot MORE chaos orbs dropping this league than in previous leagues.

you don't even show your profile. You have nothing to show for that proves that you are an expert in printing divines and adapting to a different economy or whatever. its all talk talk talk

I know that there are some players that juice and print, but who says it's you lol? You might be running around with a tabula rasa or you don't play at all and just watch streamers.

content is all that matters: your post shows exactly what I pointed out. My post shows my experience, whether you choose to accept it or not. Not my problem.

Only a special kind of person would rather judge someone based on their private account without even attempting the least bit reading the actual post itself.

When that happens, it doesn't reflect negatively on me as much as you might hope it does

the drops are better and the economy is better we just need another sink for Chaos Orbs to replace Kirac mods
1-higher level bench crafts with Chaos orbs
2-re-roll Kirac map store with Chaos as alternative to gold
3-re-add Kirac mods (prob the easiest)

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

With Kingsmarch gutted semi casuals have much less divs now. Price is out of control again.

Who's fault is it? Streamers missinforming their viewers, so that their group juice farm is buffed and everybody else gets the short end of the stick.

If people actually would have more divs than before(the majority) the price wouldn't be as it is right now.

Economy was better before, changes backfired, people were wrong, dead wrong.

Not everybody wants to play giga juiced content with toxic mods and Kingsmarch was bottlenecked, so it was ok. Now, only giga juicers get a lot of divs, which is baaad. Need to have a strong middle class you know, just like irl. Not some degen billionaires.

people do have a lot more d's now that last league. d value is measured against mirror and hinekoras not chaos, look at the price of those 2 vs last league.

wat u get here is 3 levels, mirror and equivalent are stable value when true value is measured, d inflating fast, chaos in hyper inflation.

i propose they reduce orb drop rate, keep it above last league but reduce it a lot, the inflation this league is out of control. and leave chaos as it is, its a dead orb, let new players use it to reroll their rares. i think they should find a use for exalts so it becomes the new chaos, like in poe2.

Not everybody is farming juiced breach. The few top end players that invest in mirros and locks might have more, but most players have less due to Kingsmarch changes. It's a fact.
And that is the exact problem. The changes only benefit a very small part of the playerbase.
I personally never had as much currency as i had in settlers league, because i value exp and i do not like to run to much stupid mods. So, Kingsmarch was goated for players that play a lot of maps but not necessarily juiced content. I do not mind that the fomo and gatcha game is gone(for me at least as i do not bother with KM anymore), but the new league mechanic does not drop enough raw currency for players that play random stuff and not focus on getting a juiced mechanic doubled. They could have just replaced Kingsmarch shipments with better caches in the Mirage that just drop a div here and there no matter the quant of the map. Just like shipments, every once in a while you get a wish that basicly says: "Here you go. A div from a cache, enjoy."

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

Not everybody is farming juiced breach. The few top end players that invest in mirros and locks might have more, but most players have less due to Kingsmarch changes. It's a fact.

Stop right there. Not a fact. Not true at all. Nullifies your entire post.

First off, "most" players did not even get their wealth from kingsmarch, so changes to it have zero effect on the masses. I'll offer my own anecdotal evidence: I haven't touched Kingsmarch since Kingsmarch league. Haven't had any issues building multi-mirror builds or all sorts of wealth. I am POSITIVE I am not unique, as even within Kingsmarch league.......many players were not building wealth in Kingsmarch lol.

Second, most players are ROLLING in chaos because this league is spitting them out at a stupid rate. They have MORE than they have had in previous leagues.

Third, most players do NOT trade in the multi-div (or above) ranges, they hover in the chaos field of play where the market has NEVER BEEN BETTER than it is this league. Literally never, except perhaps 3.23. Because people have so much chaos and exalts to spend. So the fact that chaos-to-div is further apart has almost nothing to do with "most" players.


God man...there is so much else that is wrong in that last post but I don't want to waste any more of my time tearing it apart more, because I think those three points are enough.

How would you know what the masses do if you are in some kind of multi mirror bubble? And why do you hide your account then? Who would not want to show off in that scenario? YOu sure as *** have something to hide, lol. It is very obvious.

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Hustla4Lyfe#7743 wrote:

people do have a lot more d's now that last league. d value is measured against mirror and hinekoras not chaos, look at the price of those 2 vs last league.

wat u get here is 3 levels, mirror and equivalent are stable value when true value is measured, d inflating fast, chaos in hyper inflation.

i propose they reduce orb drop rate, keep it above last league but reduce it a lot, the inflation this league is out of control. and leave chaos as it is, its a dead orb, let new players use it to reroll their rares. i think they should find a use for exalts so it becomes the new chaos, like in poe2.

This.

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

How would you know what the masses do if you are in some kind of multi mirror bubble? And why do you hide your account then? Who would not want to show off in that scenario? YOu sure as *** have something to hide, lol. It is very obvious.

Typical....nothing to say on the content, so you go directly AGAIN to the personal attack simply because I choose to have a private profile.

I'll repeat what I said earlier: this attitude and line of posting doesn't make me or my posts look any worse....it merely reflects that you do not know enough, or have enough faith in your own points to actually talk content.

It simply reinforces the weakness of your post and your character.
It's very obvious that you do not have a good grasp on markets, pricing, and the economy in general...whether I happen to have a private account or not.


And guess what? Even IF.....I were trying to "hide something" as you say....what in the world would that be? Why do I need to show off? Sure you aren't projecting your own personal choices? Plus, why would me hiding anything have any bearing on this conversation at all?




Your whole point is just "Kingsmarch got nerfed, waaah"....there is no other substance or connection to be had here. The rest is just you trying...and failing....to connect this to a broader topic to make it seem less like a very narrow complaint. But because I have the private account, you also get your "I'm better than you" fix....without realizing the actual perception these posts create.

My argument is that the economy was better before the changes. You already posted that you don't agree. That is enough i think. What do you even want? Do you think i open a thread in the feedback section and then you come along and post sth and i go "ok yo u are right"? I opened this feedback and you can disagree but you have to accept that not everybody plays a buisness simulator.

If you are such an expert on economy why do you even play a computer game all the time? It's escapism you know. So, don't talk about "good character" and "a good grasp on economy" it is very laughable.