Great job listening to group juice farmer streamers. Now look at the div price in chaos

With Kingsmarch gutted semi casuals have much less divs now. Price is out of control again.

Who's fault is it? Streamers missinforming their viewers, so that their group juice farm is buffed and everybody else gets the short end of the stick.

If people actually would have more divs than before(the majority) the price wouldn't be as it is right now.

Economy was better before, changes backfired, people were wrong, dead wrong.

Not everybody wants to play giga juiced content with toxic mods and Kingsmarch was bottlenecked, so it was ok. Now, only giga juicers get a lot of divs, which is baaad. Need to have a strong middle class you know, just like irl. Not some degen billionaires.

The problem is with chaos orb itself - and no sink for them.
Kirac bench mods were removed and they were primary driving force behind removing excessive C from the economy. Not sure if you remember, but back in 2022 or 2023 some of the Kirac mods costed 13 or 16 chaos. Recently they are much cheaper and today there's no Kirac craft at all.

Also, no T17 meta, that's actually good. T16,5 are there but you don't need to roll them so aggressively, also exalts are cheap and you can just slam a semi-good 4-mod map with ex instead of rolling more C's.

Other currency holds up just fine relating to a divine orb.

It'll be similar to POE2 exalted orb which crashes in value in week 2 of the league, where players are picking up way more than they can use and spend.

They might not be farm meta but the chaos sink from t17s is still there. Nothing has changed. You can only reroll those maps with chaos orbs. Mayne they don#t work with astrolabs or sth i dunno but they are still in the game the are just named differently which is label fraud basicly, they went nowhere.

Also, i still think the biggest problems lies with divines. You were able to get several divines per day with simple blue zantium shipments to kalguur if you played a few hours a day. That's just gone poof, those are dozens divines less for many many players now that have to buy those divs for chaos instead when they want to trade for more valuable stuff.

Also, we had the same explosions with kirac missions in the game, because only few gigachads were able to print in sanctum and most peopel were not able to reach the final boss. it is because few palyers print a lot of divines aand many players have much less than before.

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

With Kingsmarch gutted semi casuals have much less divs now. Price is out of control again.

Who's fault is it? Streamers missinforming their viewers, so that their group juice farm is buffed and everybody else gets the short end of the stick.

If people actually would have more divs than before(the majority) the price wouldn't be as it is right now.

Economy was better before, changes backfired, people were wrong, dead wrong.

Not everybody wants to play giga juiced content with toxic mods and Kingsmarch was bottlenecked, so it was ok. Now, only giga juicers get a lot of divs, which is baaad. Need to have a strong middle class you know, just like irl. Not some degen billionaires.

I don't think I've seen a more objectively wrong post. The majority are happy with the changes. Not everyone does juice, but most people do and that's how they should design the game. Not for the 1% who don't want this.

Also the game has always favored those with more time to play and even GGG has stated themselves before how they design content around the idea that 90% can't finish it. It's never been a game geared towards a more casual audience and shouldn't change now.

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

They might not be farm meta but the chaos sink from t17s is still there. Nothing has changed.

All juicing strats from nightmare maps are completely gone. Those players are not using chaos orbs on them anymore. They're playing different content.

Carry services and players going for completion just use scarabs to disable the mods entirely. No reason to roll the maps in the first place.

That leaves boss rushing for fragments. Well, most dangerous mods are gone. They might use 2-4c for a higher quantity roll but considering the very high profit margin nobody is doing that either.

If it's none of these players then who exactly is spending chaos orbs on nightmare maps?

We currently have NO chaos sink.

Remember when streamers used to complain about being able to target farm certain div cards, and GGG changed the way div cards can be farmed (seer) while nuking div card rewards everywhere.

Yeah, definitely not the first time streamers' half-baked recommendations have ruined this game.

Blame should also be placed on those casuals who kept complaining about poor ground loot. Great, now the useless chaos orbs are EVEN MORE NUMEROUS. I hope you are happy clicking on them.

ugh divine is 345 chaos now...it will be over 400 soon. good times

Love the casual complete mis-characterization of "Price" versus "Value"

Prices are perfectly fine: the only thing currently down this league is the inherent value of a single chaos orb. So what?

If its true that divine drops and overall divines are lower than previous leagues, the market has already reflected that reality and balanced around buyers having less to work with. Leaving actual "pricing" not much different from any other league.
I would bet though that this simply ISN'T true, and its a reflection of the inflexibility of a player unwilling to change what they were used to in previous leagues.

Sure, your chaos orb drops alone are worth less. Good. There are, and have always been, many other currencies. I'd also add that you failed to account for the fact that there is a heck of a lot MORE chaos orbs dropping this league than in previous leagues.

Non issue