T17s utter trash design
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Asking the real questions here...how TF this guy in here with a mageblood grade hold right mouse spin-to-win jugg grousing about being unable to figure out a t17? Like, surely the only mod in game that might give him grief is phys reflect, if even that, right?
Pretty sure his jugg should be able to yolo into 8 mod unid t17s no problem. I don't want to be that guy coming in here to fight for no reason, but at a certain point you have to suspect maybe the problem is in fact user error. |
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" Did you consider that people don't have to real struggle with something to hate it or don't like "design"? On Probation Any%
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" No. “Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
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" lol....did you consider actually reading the post he's talking about? It's pretty darn clear there is a "struggle" issue, and not just a pure hate issue. To quote: "T17s are utter stupidity. Numbers game. Which mods can this build do....No one wants to spend 1 hour checking map modifiers nobody." Pious...that was the correct response to this quote lol. It would make zero sense for someone to "hate" the design of T17s WITHOUT struggle being most of it.....considering literally 100% of the rest of the game is the SAME design in terms of everything play-wise. Starting anew....with PoE 2 Last edited by cowmoo275#3095 on Jan 8, 2026, 1:33:55 PM
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" Exactly, especially considering how nerfed the bad mods are. Volatiles cores got the nerf hammer Aul bloodline gives any class the ability to ignore action speed mod and petrification mods completely. The nerf to back to basics and map mod effect have rendered all of the other mods pretty mild. Attack block/spell block is still really annoying. And I fkn hate the 3 seconds of no damage, but whatever. not all mods have to be ignorable. thats the point. “Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.” Last edited by Piousqd#0073 on Jan 8, 2026, 3:48:01 PM
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" The game is fun when your killing monsters..in my opinion anyways. I usually play solo self found because hanging out in my hideout all day isnt that fun. T17s aren't hard they are annoying. You spin mods until you dont get one of the shit no damage for 3 seconds, 100% map boss life, etc etc etc. They shouldn't balance the game around trading strategies in my opinion and anyone e saying " get gud" doesnt realize thay upgrading vear via trade isnt really playing the game. You're simply accessing everything based on " X divine per hour" This is why I prefer solo self found or HC because there are stakes. The end game of poe trade sc right now is simply annoying. I like having access to uniques, and shit I dont wanna touch like fossils I hate delve. But spending so much time rolling maps, juicing, farming strategies its annoying. I just wanna kill monsters collect loot. Thats it. Take some of the bullshit out and the t17s would be fine. Anyone saying g this is normal is simply "coping" the games power creep has gone way too far. Honestly, PoE needs a fresh start and sadly poe2 has doubled down with his powrr creep and bloated mess. The game thrives when your building archetypes off the skill tree bot basing everything on a mageblood, or cluster jewels. Powerful items are good in ARPGs but poe has backed itself into a corner. Too powerful items aren't good. Too much bloat isnt good. Sitting in my hideout for an hour spinning 100 maps to run is ridiculous. And yes there are third party tools you can use to help but that's just ridiculous thay u need third party tools to run a game. Also, anyone who wants to have a little race in solo self found HC let's do it. Because thats where skill and builds matter. Your insults mean nothing to me even if I did suck at the game... grow up Anyone can trade for some god build anyone.. " x divine per hour.. " wanna see how the game is truly balanced? Ay self found. The balance is a disaster. Last edited by Jradlot21#0486 on Jan 8, 2026, 4:05:19 PM
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" My experiment? No im not running that. I run t17s with my Cyclone Jugg because I was so annoyed with the mods. Now I just run them without looking and og straight to boss for my fragments. I run t16s they are way more fun. And the loot is the same or better because you dont gotta worry about retarded shit. If I get end up a mod like no damage for 3 outta 10 seconds I leave the map and stick a new one. My occultist can smash them in 2 minutes flat but its quite annoying running into certain mods im done with endlessly checking mods. And why you guys defend it ill never know. Its ridiculous. Mods should be - extra lightning damage - monsters deal 100% more damage - monsters have 100% life. - monsters wither on hit - monsters desl extra chaos damage Shit like that. That is sensible for god sakes trust me I have no problem doing hard content i love it. I play gauntlets, hc solo self found. What i dont like is this rolling t17s to avoid bullshit mods is simply stupid and annoying. T17s are not hard. They are spreadsheet based. Numbers game. How many divine do I need to obtain a billion damage or immortality? That's not skill, thats not brainpower. Its brute forcing your way through a problem via trade. I've done t17s in ssf they are dogshit. In trade they are also dogshit. Get the fragments and get out. The layouts are horrible. The mods are annoying. So yeah, it run straight to the boss with a immortal jugg grab my fragments and move on with life to better things. Last edited by Jradlot21#0486 on Jan 8, 2026, 4:12:43 PM
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Somehow I distrust someone claiming they have no problem running hard content when they flat out admit they have problems running T17s for "reason X". I don't think I have ever used a spreadsheet for playing PoE beyond the capabilities of PoB.
They added EZ mode for people who are struggling by adding Scarab of Bisection. Maybe you'll have a better time running half the mods, seeing how you only care about the fragments anyway. :-) The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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" It doesn't take hours if you take 5 minutes to learn how to do it efficiently, same as crafting or any other mechanic in POE. By "3rd party tools" do you mean a simple Regex? That's not a 3rd party tool. It's literally just text, being typed into the search bar built into the game. The fact that you don't understand how to write it, and need to go to a website to help you create it, does not make it 3rd party. “Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
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" Cool, either way its fucking annoying to me. Just make the mods make sense like I said - monsters deal more damage - penetrate resistances - monsters deal extra chaos damage - wither on hit Not - players die after x amount of time - Players are marked for death - players deal no damage for 3 out if 10 seconds Defend this is you choose i never will. Its utter trash. Not to mention shaper beams everywhere floor degens its fuckin crazy. Again its easy to just make a build that can tank it or delete the screen.it has nothing to do with skill t17z simply feel terrible to play. Like I said run straight to the map boss and nuke it for the fragments other than that personally I find them useless to run. |
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