I spent a ton of time farming JUICED T17 maps last league and THIS league.. GGG please do something!

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HDTanel#2691 wrote:

Ive done multiple calculations and a typical T17 juiced Strongbox with or without containment will net you around 100 chaos worth of 2C+ worth of items IF you take out random lucky drops like 1xDIV every 2 or 3 maps or 1xContainment Scarab dropping every 2 or 3 maps.

Same goes for the Scarab Atlas farm, on average you net about 100chaos worth of items BUT.. you also have to take out INVESTMENT. So if you run Containment.. you most likely are doing mapping for almost no reward at all.
If yhou do cheaper strats without lucky drops here and there you get like 60c profit per map lol.. its SOO BAD and boring.. nothing cool or exciting drops. You have to pick up trash scarabs like taking a bag full of coins you collected to the local bank and begging for them to count them so you get 10 dollars.

T16 alch&go has been fine for me, invested 122 div into my build and I make nice currency by just running random maps+kingsmarch blue zanth/corn+wheat 17.01 mil shipments. And I never use containment scarabs, always sell em on Faustus for whatever price they're at. Even without a lucky containment drop, a scarab selling session after a few maps for me usually gets me 100-200 chaos. Plus selling any other currency. Picking up all scarabs, vendor recipe 3-to-1 them and sell any expensive scarabs through Faustus, at least all scarabs that you won't use. Sometimes you get a lucky awakening scarab for 70c from vendoring 3 bad scarabs, or some other rare one. Its a really nice vendor recipe.

You do get currency from normal non-t17 maps, just can't expect to be raining down headhunters and magebloods all day from it. And I never calculate investment because I don't buy scarabs, I use what I have and just self-sustain normal ambush scarabs. All I do is click that notable that makes it so you're much more likely to find Ambush scarabs on my atlas tree while blocking 8/10 league mechs. Never bought a single one this league and constantly had 30+ of each type except containment. Because I only use a full 5-scarab setup on 8-mod t16s, in a normal t16 its alch&go+ambush map device craft for 4c. That 4c is easily made back just from clicking altars and opening boxes.

I feel like people tunnel-vision into t17s way too hard since they had literal exploits and gamebreaking mechanics that were printing too much loot, so now they think that t17s is the only place you can make currency. Its not, I've made more currency this league than in any other league and have not touched a single T17 map except boss-rushing for a challenge, I then exited those T17s and picked up none of the loot except boss drops.

If we count lucky drops, sure I got a mirror from Ritual one league in the past but that's just RNG.

I agree completely with OP. Abyss hoardes was my strat last league after I have tested 6-9 different strats. Was enjoing it and played on 16,5 maps untill the last day of league and then for a few days in standard until the patch.
This league after the nerfs there are no endgame strats for me. And for top streamers too. I watched for a while and they out of desperation were trying ghosted legion which is buggy thing that lags immensly and were trying cheap boxes because were unhappy that containment was expensive and didnt give steady returns and where even watching videos on youtube looking for proftable strats. They found one where the main source of income was dropping lots of t17 maps and selling them. LOL.

So basically your patch C did nothing. People hate walls and I cant understand why do we need walls outside Hive? Loot is garbage this league. People are suspecting that you intentionally ruining poe1 endgame experience to make them switch to poe2. Endgame strats are not fun ad not profitable. 300+ currency on t16,5 doesnt guarantee good drops. The only playable map is Fortress because of additional loot from barrels. If last league t16,5 could rival with t17 this league they are way worse. Nerfiling Atlas implicit multiplyers did something to loot formula drop because right now currencies drops are too rare. People miss Abyss, Alva, Rogue Exiles strats with many risk scarabs because they were hard but rewarding exactly how endgame should be.

I suggest that GGG revert all the scarabs ant atlas multipliers to 3.26 so that we could farm endgame untill 3.28 endgame changes.