jugg accuracy stacking

has anyone tried jugg accuracy stacking with those boots? how much accuracy can i get without resorting to expensive gear. just precision, accuracy roll on helmet, glove and two rings + increased from tree + tattoos + any other ideas?

if i can get 20k after reduction thats 2 wrath aura worth of dmg and more than 200atk speed.

yeah, theres multiple guides and builds with accuracy stacking, with those boots

problem with jugg accuracy stacking is that you presumably will also stack strength (or pretty much NEED to). At that point.....there are just so many better strength-stacking opportunities, with less overall cost and better results. And unfortunately that pretty much rings true throughout all budget ranges. MAYBE accuracy is better on the low end, but it will quickly be outshined. That 25% penalty is pretty massive on a stat pretty darn hard to raise.

Trickster with ephemeral edge is better at stacking damage than that trash item.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

problem with jugg accuracy stacking is that you presumably will also stack strength (or pretty much NEED to). At that point.....there are just so many better strength-stacking opportunities, with less overall cost and better results. And unfortunately that pretty much rings true throughout all budget ranges. MAYBE accuracy is better on the low end, but it will quickly be outshined. That 25% penalty is pretty massive on a stat pretty darn hard to raise.

well i plan on doing armor and stack and use accuracy stacking as supplement, not going all in on it.

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scottslayer#6428 wrote:

Trickster with ephemeral edge is better at stacking damage than that trash item.

did some ed trickster and wasnt amazing at low-mid end. youd have to stack some int to make it strong.

well i got to around 100mil using some hybrid armor/accuracy stack. 15-20k accuracy, boots are giving me 20-25% dmg incr. 10 attacks persec, 1.2 mil armor, 5k life. the accuracy nodes didnt give me much increase tho - something like 1,5-2% so it was just a supplement. accuracy mastery gives me 1,7% dmg incr. got 18 Tattoo of the Ramako Archer, precision, one accuracy wheel and couple of accuracy nodes on my clusters.

i would suggest ggg to remove the less multiplier on boot, make tattoos give 10% accuracy incr and significantly buff all the accuracy nodes on the tree.

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feral_nature#7076 wrote:

well i plan on doing armor and stack and use accuracy stacking as supplement, not going all in on it.

I get it, and saw your respectable stats. I never really thought it WOULDN'T be powerful......I just don't think its practical or cost-effective.

For example, all that investment you put into accuracy to even get ANY bonus from the shoes would have been cheaper and better invested into just straight strength and armor.

How many passives did you have to spend on accuracy? How many passives did you have to spend for tattoos that you could have used better options? How many mods on your gear did you sacrifice for accuracy? How much of your mana is your accuracy aura costing you, that you simply wouldn't even need without the boots? All of that added together, and completely removed from your build in favor of a simple resolute technique corrupt, and some low to mid tier armor/damage passives and clusters and I think you'd have similar dps overall, but MUCH BETTER utility and defense.


I'm not going to make a useless comment like mentioning a completely different build like the guy above, who appears confused with this conversation. But when you are stacking basically the same things within the same build....its almost never going to be a good idea splitting focus and stacking two different things that don't play well with each other. If we are talking about pure cost and benefit.

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

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feral_nature#7076 wrote:

well i plan on doing armor and stack and use accuracy stacking as supplement, not going all in on it.

I get it, and saw your respectable stats. I never really thought it WOULDN'T be powerful......I just don't think its practical or cost-effective.

For example, all that investment you put into accuracy to even get ANY bonus from the shoes would have been cheaper and better invested into just straight strength and armor.

How many passives did you have to spend on accuracy? How many passives did you have to spend for tattoos that you could have used better options? How many mods on your gear did you sacrifice for accuracy? How much of your mana is your accuracy aura costing you, that you simply wouldn't even need without the boots? All of that added together, and completely removed from your build in favor of a simple resolute technique corrupt, and some low to mid tier armor/damage passives and clusters and I think you'd have similar dps overall, but MUCH BETTER utility and defense.


I'm not going to make a useless comment like mentioning a completely different build like the guy above, who appears confused with this conversation. But when you are stacking basically the same things within the same build....its almost never going to be a good idea splitting focus and stacking two different things that don't play well with each other. If we are talking about pure cost and benefit.

50 str for alberons will give you 50dmg. for stormrider boot is 3 dmg - 50str =100 accuracy. flat t1 roll on gear is 550-600 so its 5 times more efficient.

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feral_nature#7076 wrote:

50 str for alberons will give you 50dmg. for stormrider boot is 3 dmg - 50str =100 accuracy. flat t1 roll on gear is 550-600 so its 5 times more efficient.

not quite....that mathing is incorrect lol. 80 strength nets you average 40 damage from the boots. Every 2 strength yields 1 damage. The boots give you average 3 for 200 accuracy, with penalty that becomes 250 accuracy. T1 rolls: 500 accuracy yields 6 flat damage from those boots. T1 strength roll: 55 strength yields 27 damage from alberons. Not to mention you can also get strength stacking weapon.

On pure comparison based on single mods: strength stacking is yielding like 5x more damage.

But strength doesn't occur in a vacuum. Strength itself provides physical damage, likely getting converted. Weapons can get the strength stacking stack, but no such accuracy stacking stat. Nodes on the tree heavily favor strength over accuracy near the nodes you would need to get for any juggernaut build. Strength synergizes with defenses. Etc. To truly max out accuracy you would need to stack dex, which doesn't synergize well with jugg.

Now if you IGNORE the accuracy rolls that you require to double stack, you can get much more juicy bonuses that all compete for those slots on your gear. The juggernaut ascendancy certainly helps to cover some of that imbalance above, but that comes at its own passive point and mod cost that skews it again.


I'm actually interested in just what exactly the balance is for this: I might go into PoB and just take all the strength nodes within reason, slap on alberon and see what flat damage is. Then do the same for accuracy and slap on those boots. Might not do that today though


But another calculation you can do is just on that juggernaut accuracy ascendancy node:
Assume 1000 strength, a decently easy value to get on a small budget strength stacker.

Jugg accuracy node yields 2000 accuracy + 500 = 2500. 25% off yields 1875 accuracy. These boots provide 3.5 daamge per 200 = 3.5 x 9 = 31.5 flat damage. You also get attack speed, so lets make that a "more" multiplier and you would get a net of 10ish more damage from attack speed, for a total of lets say 35 flat damage.
Now consider Alberon with the same strength: 1000 + 18% = 1180 = 590 (!) flat damage.

To cover that difference in damage, ONLY from the boots, you would need an additional 16x more accuracy from other sources. Is that even possible, first of all? And second, is it worth stacking something that is THAT much less efficient at building damage, AND with no other benefits associated with it?