[3.24]Herald of Agony CI -The dirty Scorpion-tail|2M EHP|Minion-Pathfinder|50-200M|Inbuilt Mageblood

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Karetje wrote:

Running this build as second char, its fun, but managing attributes and resists is pretty difficult.
Need some levels still, but slowly getting there. Already res capped with flask effect, so that is something..

Question, what anoint do you use on your amulet? I am now using to get the strength i need, but at some point you would want something else.

In the POB is see ehther WoD of souvereignity, but both are also allocated in the passive tree in all setups.

Am i looking at the wrong thing?

Thank you Karetje!

Yes, getting the attributes on clustertransfers and ghastly jewels and etc. is not easy. Don't be shy to take a +30 attr-note or bandit alira for resis until you levelled for the next jewel/cluster or got better gear.

With a very good manamanagement and poison on hit tattoos in lategame whispers of doom is best.

Eg take a 80% manamultiplier helmet (1 div) and a new circle of ambition ( only when you get it with a good implicit like onslaught, ailment/ignite avoidances or arcane surge).
In some days I will update the trade list, there are 5 links in the moment not optimized.

Ebers 80%
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Necropolis/4p83Zngf9

Circle of ambition
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Necropolis/E5okvmKt5

Before anoint sovereignity/charisma.

It's in the end about 1 passive worth (whispers of doom) or instead place for 6-7 very valuable dex-tattoos (sovereignity) when you individual adjust the maxed-possibilities.

80-110 unreserved mana is ordinary enough.

Hello, this is my second league and i've spent the past 4-5 days trying to set this build up. spent about 120+ div's(sometimes buying the wrong item)

I'm not sure what else I can do to turn on tempest shield. I've sorted through this whole guide multiple times to no avail.

Build feels good. But I die to random things sometimes and I assume its my block chance.

Which is why I'm trying to slot in tempest shield. But I don't have the mana for it despite doing most of the checklist needed to.

Can anyone take a look and point me in the right direction/upgrade path?

I think one of my biggest mistake is buying skin of the lords for 25d of the wrong socket(2/2/2). I have 2 red socket which I use "damage on full life support + Empower" and i think the 130% on full life support is taking away too much mana.

I've tried moving stuff around to no avail and just throwing away currency.

Any help or direction is appreciated!

https://pobb.in/2JQ1oY--itYf

Edit: Save me Chromino!

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mrflamee wrote:

Fantastic fantastic build, first time trying necro after sticking to guardian hoag for a long time :)

Thanks for the build!

Thank you a lot again mrflamee!

With more budget and much of your maxing I optimized an updated voices-HoA-necro-set-up.
Stationary with mindfulness for 60-80 mana-reg/ sec.

With the squirel-shield in 'squishy' 200k ehp like other minion builds around 220M can be reached when you focus on damage. Select a second chaosdamage- or chaos-minion skill when you want to oneshot the Ubers.

The megalomaniacs and the skin of the loyals are rare to get. Overall they are very reliable and flexible to be exchanged too in the whole set-up with the +1 chaos-mastery (15M), fearsome force buffing more HoA-crit (15M), with the cult-leaders (13M), with better rolls and corruptions (on the rings, on mageblood) for 1-2 free passivepoints more, 35% increased effect of the small rare cluster-transferpassives, better suffixes on the rare medium clusters, even better megalomaniacs with 3 useable notables, a better rolled the adorned, a second circle of ambition instead the nostalgia, etc...
To clearly stat: in necropolis already all b.i.s. megalomaniacs showed up and I owned them in the last leagues, - and for sure each single one can be replaced flexible for 0, 0.5 or 1 passive.

The budget is still much, much cheaper as all the aurastackers, armourstackers, branders, and captain lancetank + other known high-maxed builds use.
In the minon-meta HoA is probably now outstanding when the crawler is well-tickled-done. Compared to other meta-skills the HoA-autobombing-quality and qol can to be pointed out more in better youtube-videos.

Alternatives:


With the cheap and tanky dark seer, quieter weaker voices or without awakened empower still very nice 160-170M damage are substained. It`s extreme easy also to build in again the es-mastery written in blood when wanted. For some poe-content the tanky choices in the atlas- tree, with enfeeble, more es, the es-mastery, the dark seer, the third clarity-watcher`s eye-mod, introspection, etc. should be choosed in exchange for 10M less damage dealed.

So as result also this updated pob is by far still not totally optimized.
I will add soon the pathfinder, the trickster and the guardian-specialisations.


But right now our dirty herald brings over our messages and lessons of crawling destructions in full convincing:


174M arachnophobiatic damage


113 virulences are used, 180 and more HoA-virulences /sec generated, 20M to inf*** ehp, 88% max-resis (overcapped).



https://pobb.in/3ZbX5FCw

Disc:


When I am informed correct this [3.24] HoA-build deals double the damage and reachs double the ehp as well as doubled substain as the other actual interesting minion-builds (relics, golems, spectres, srs, etc.).

Yes, it is minmaxed, but when I compare it to my former witches, pathfinders, guardians and tricksters which did all ubers, 20000 whisps, most necropolis-mods, t17 etc in low 30-70M and low 400k ehp, this tattoo-using-setup is probably attractive for all demands. Of course iron reflexes for farming u-sirus in 150k armour and more can be still switched in too like in all former leagues.

Of course this allrounder needs to be specialized when you farm individual uber-high-juided poe-content. Of course we can balance it into tanky tripled max-hits taken or tripling the already inf** ehp in the exchange of 10% less damage dealed.


I guess that probably proofs that HoA is ready for meta again and in the lategame better to scale up as other mortal poison-minions in t17.

Hehehe. Let`s sting!

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Marseria wrote:

Hello, this is my second league and i've spent the past 4-5 days trying to set this build up. spent about 120+ div's(sometimes buying the wrong item)

I'm not sure what else I can do to turn on tempest shield. I've sorted through this whole guide multiple times to no avail.

Build feels good. But I die to random things sometimes and I assume its my block chance.

Which is why I'm trying to slot in tempest shield. But I don't have the mana for it despite doing most of the checklist needed to.

Can anyone take a look and point me in the right direction/upgrade path?

I think one of my biggest mistake is buying skin of the lords for 25d of the wrong socket(2/2/2). I have 2 red socket which I use "damage on full life support + Empower" and i think the 130% on full life support is taking away too much mana.

I've tried moving stuff around to no avail and just throwing away currency.

Any help or direction is appreciated!

https://pobb.in/2JQ1oY--itYf

Edit: Save me Chromino!

Hi Maseria!

With the correct pob-configurations (HoA-tail attack) you are now at 17M damage, 22M damage singletarget with awakened vicious projectiles, 1.7M ehp.

That is extreme fine.

For more mana-reg you would need mana-recoupings on an abyss-jewel, that would trigger eg cwdt reliable. Or try out selfcasted or autotriggered cwdt/cws instead cwc the ball-lightnings.



For tempestshield you should use small clusters with 2x6% efficiences (not 1x), and get a 80% manamultiplier-helmet (1 div), or when available the new circles of ambition:

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Necropolis/4p83Zngf9

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Necropolis/98VeWZ4fK

That would be enough with tempestshield socketed into the helmet: 255 unreserved mana, you need in average only 80-110 unreserved. Of course do not forget to disable envy. You could then after also regret the 5 passives pathing sovereignity or charisma. When ball lightning etc. is not triggered continuous it`s not crucial, but you mandatory may not interuppt es on hit of stormburst when you facetank.

Sorry, there are 5 tradelinks needed to be optimized soooooon in the tradinglist. List-update is coming in soooon.

The HoA-supports are not that much critical until you are b.i.s.-geared. All supports shows ups and downs, eg aw unbound ailments is only best until you reach the dot-hardcap (35M ) in around 60M total HoA-damage dealed, damage on full life is eg in average better in maps for faster dealing the damage, predator singletarget minmaxed is totally b.i.s., and more ...

Then after you have overcapped spellblock and overcapped spell suppression. So you could i.e. balance next into another jewel slot.

Overall I am not sure if the spellblock is the problem. Tempestshield also helps great with instantly ranged autotriggered HoA-damage and damage-uptime. Further there are rippy necropolis-map-mods. Ignites can be extreme fast killing. Freezings can be deadly too. Of course shockings raise the incoming damage fast by 100% and more full damage taken, leading to many, many oneshots in the relating mods ....

As pathfinder ele-resis on flasks are in some poe-content dangerous.
Best is to use ele-resis on flasks only to overcap them. The bismuth-flask is not optimal, stack 15-20% cold-resis with clustertransferpoints, ghastly jewels, veteran defender, survivalist, alira etc. and use another flask.

Sometimes there are juicy pathfinder-b.i.s.-megalomaniacs available too which helps a lot in weird flask-debuff-map-mods ...

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Necropolis/R8GwwegF7

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Marseria wrote:

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About the prices in these days of the league you often get for 30-50 div very, very good gear when you snipe or craft a bit stuff. The prices vary very much in ongoing leagues too.... Some stuff, empower, awakened gems are always not cheap.

Instead large, medium and small clusters will make you rich when you craft yourself some. Flasks also. I made myself around 50 divs profit in some hours basic crafting and clusters- and flasks-alt-rolling.

Ashes is extreme cheap, good shields, the b.i.s. helmets too.

For example and for sciences I got each one of this almost b.i.s.-pieces from low 2 chaos, up to 100 chaos for the rare boots and 1 div for the corrupted blood-immunity-ghastly jewel, for each one single gearpiece in trade, plus further a well-rolled 130% adorned for 2 div, 3 div for the double corruptions on the gloves, the divine shield-sol for 8 div, a not too bad watcher`s eye low rolled combo (es on hit+spell block) for 1 div, in the last 10 days, in total all together around 18 div, when I remember correct. There is so much remaining to gear up, but it's already good for juiced red t16 and pinnacle bosses. Almost oneshots eater, exarch etc.

Thank you so much for the input!

I've been reading your build guide like a bible the past 1 week to understand the build more.

Learning alot about the game and cool mechanics you can do in a build from this :)

Much appreciated Chromino!

Edit: Why disable envy? is it just not worth it or am I getting it elsewhere?

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Marseria wrote:

Thank you so much for the input!

I've been reading your build guide like a bible the past 1 week to understand the build more.

Learning alot about the game and cool mechanics you can do in a build from this :)

Much appreciated Chromino!

Edit: Why disable envy? is it just not worth it or am I getting it elsewhere?

hehe, thank you too. yes it's the long and the big guide. hehehe.

Envy adds flat damage, 100-140. The herald of agony is the minion with the most high base flat-damage already in higher levels in whole poe as far as I know. So the effect of envy is simular to only 1 HoA-virulence at HoA lvl 26. We scale up 80 or also 110 virulences, as result envy would been buffing around tiny low 1.2% the herald.

So there are much better other ways to scale the HoA (virulences, HoA-levels, curses, etc.). And the high 50% mana reserved of envy is a high investment.

Envy is most valuable when you want to scale many small fast hitting minions, like 20 srs, then it's 20x more effective.

Question..

Just bought a new Aegis with more ES (about 200 more when equipped, getting me to 3200 ES).

I corrupted my old one, and that gave me 8% phys damage taken as lightning as modifier...:)

So...what would be better
3200 ES
3000 ES with 8% phys taken as lightning (my lightning res is capped btw)

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Karetje wrote:

Question..

Just bought a new Aegis with more ES (about 200 more when equipped, getting me to 3200 ES).

I corrupted my old one, and that gave me 8% phys damage taken as lightning as modifier...:)

So...what would be better
3200 ES
3000 ES with 8% phys taken as lightning (my lightning res is capped btw)

In average the flat universal +200 es.

When there are much physical mods around the phys to lightning damageshift.

https://pobb.in/CCy6vrlafaT8

I'm running the graven + united in dream version and I don't really see how this build can tank shaper beam? It actually melts faster than my flicker strike trickster. I also did get one shot by shaper's slam.

In general it actually feels less tanky than my flicker strike trickster atm