🌬️⛵☁️[3.25] The dirty Scorpion-tail|Chaos-Necromancy|Herald of Agony CI-Arachnophobia Allstars|600M+

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Chromino wrote:
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Kurnis wrote:
Possible to help figure out why my damage is only 36M?

Maybe that's normal, but I feel like it should be higher with this gear and 93 virulence stacks

here is PoB:
https://pobb.in/D_PbKDZQDKgK


For better calculating singletarget-damage you should exchange fork to supports like vile toxins (configure in pob poisons on enemy to show dps), withering touch, damage on full life etc.

You already don`t use bone offering, so switch mistress of sacrifice to plaguebringer in the ascendancy (configure corpses in pob to show the dps) for tankynesss and damage.

You could switch one blue jewel, the respendent ghastly jewel of training, to amanamu`s gaze. Some es against a bit damage.

You could get vixens gloves with the implicit temporal chains on hit (1 div) for some qol in exchange against 2M less damage. Use despair and the gloves, put out sniper`s mark.
https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Necropolis/JPMy3ail

Optimize your armour of iron reflexes with a jade/stibnit-flask.
When you selfcast despair, you can use a balance of terror with the withers-mod. Get despair lvl 20/21.

With these changes you reach 52-53M damage singletarget. With awakened unbound ailments in a blue socket it would be 57M.

https://pobb.in/5PllSuUQq9i9
https://pobb.in/LtWQrPuPm8zE

Great done!


THANK YOU for the tips. Definitely helped me push this further. Just crossed 70M damage. Added carnage chieftan spectres too, linked to feeding frenzy with the chaos golem. Been running t16 all day and haven't lost any minions (I really thought I would)

Insane build. Gonna run this next league too. you da man
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Chromino wrote:

The pob would look with pathed iron reflexes and legacy melding like:
https://pobb.in/fWSFW5e0
(Can tank almost 2 U-shaper-slams, 2 Sirus meteors, etc.)


With iron reflexes skin of the lords more tanky (150k armour, lethe shade) like:
https://pobb.in/5uB2XZ0G

I would go for 30-50M damage, poisondot, iron reflexes on skin of the lords, melding and capacities beyond into damage taken as chaos/elemental shield implicit and enduring composure on a cluster. In pob community-fork are in the configurations the presettings for typical bigger uber-attacks.

The Allstars-build as CI with aegis aurora es on block and maximized global defences + avoidances is in the end balanced a little bit more in optimized juiced t17 and simulacrum farming. All Ubers are down and you can instant skip some phases and tank all their minor attacks. You can tank many of the major attacks, like U-Sirus meteors, U-Shaper slam, U-Eater-beam etc. too with frostshield and molten shell.
But when you want to fully specialize into facetanking other major attacks like 1000 suns (this build can only tank 10 by default) or bullet hell (this build can only tank 5 in the default set-up), slayers with dawn breaker-shields against penetrations or with many mirrors possible extreme high flat es-regenerations are fitting a bit better.

Take a look into "endgame": "the b.i.s.-upgrades". There the best implicits are listed. Yes, the voices are expensive again, 3 leagues ago they were priced a fractured 10%.
In "the ubers" are more specialized tipps. With mageblood and melding much tipps are not needed. But crafting eldritch-pinnacle-implicits on the boots and some damage shiftings are big advantages.


Ehi, thank you very much for the exhaustive answer! I'll do some try on different versions according to my gear and i'll let you know, by now the hardest thing is to cap elemental resistances... Thanks again!
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Kurnis wrote:

THANK YOU for the tips. Definitely helped me push this further. Just crossed 70M damage. Added carnage chieftan spectres too, linked to feeding frenzy with the chaos golem. Been running t16 all day and haven't lost any minions (I really thought I would)

Insane build. Gonna run this next league too. you da man


Hi! Would you link your definitive pob with 70M dmg? Really i have no idea how to push the build over 50-55M without voices...
Thanks to you too
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Marrangha wrote:
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Kurnis wrote:

THANK YOU for the tips. Definitely helped me push this further. Just crossed 70M damage. Added carnage chieftan spectres too, linked to feeding frenzy with the chaos golem. Been running t16 all day and haven't lost any minions (I really thought I would)

Insane build. Gonna run this next league too. you da man


Hi! Would you link your definitive pob with 70M dmg? Really i have no idea how to push the build over 50-55M without voices...
Thanks to you too


In example you can easy go with cheap 5-passives voices (50 chaos) and Adorned for 70M.
In standard the prices for helmet etc. are in these days inflated, they are often quite, quite cheaper.

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Standard/aVklGj7Ce

Switch out in standard the impossible escape jewel for one more cheap 5-passives voices, then you reach with rational doctrine already 80M or you can use another jewel with needed stats.

https://pobb.in/fKCKt36v

Last edited by Chromino on Jun 22, 2024, 4:42:09 PM
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Chromino wrote:

In example you can easy go with cheap 5-passives voices (50 chaos) and Adorned for 70M.
In standard the prices for helmet etc. are in these days inflated, they are often quite, quite cheaper.

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Standard/aVklGj7Ce

Switch out in standard the impossible escape jewel for one more cheap 5-passives voices, then you reach with rational doctrine already 80M or you can use another jewel with needed stats.

https://pobb.in/fKCKt36v



Wonderful! Thank you again mate.
I built a trickster cause i really like to be as tanky as possible, just cannot go over 30-35M dmg cause i need mana to sustain cyclone + spells + triggers, and i prefer to use vixen gloves in place of triad grip (even bcs it's impossible to find 4 white with curse on hit).
If you have any tips here's my pob: https://pobb.in/APz2dGcfPb6v

Now i'll try to build the necro version with 2x voices (3x passive), but actually my main problem is mana sustain, i spent 2 passive to have more mana + mana regen on boots.
Also i prefer to use double curse vixen (temp chain + despair) and this low down my damage. But i take your version as base to find the best configuration for my playstyle. Let's see, i keep you updated.
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Marrangha wrote:
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Chromino wrote:

In example you can easy go with cheap 5-passives voices (50 chaos) and Adorned for 70M.
In standard the prices for helmet etc. are in these days inflated, they are often quite, quite cheaper.

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Standard/aVklGj7Ce

Switch out in standard the impossible escape jewel for one more cheap 5-passives voices, then you reach with rational doctrine already 80M or you can use another jewel with needed stats.

https://pobb.in/fKCKt36v



Wonderful! Thank you again mate.
I built a trickster cause i really like to be as tanky as possible, just cannot go over 30-35M dmg cause i need mana to sustain cyclone + spells + triggers, and i prefer to use vixen gloves in place of triad grip (even bcs it's impossible to find 4 white with curse on hit).
If you have any tips here's my pob: https://pobb.in/APz2dGcfPb6v

Now i'll try to build the necro version with 2x voices (3x passive), but actually my main problem is mana sustain, i spent 2 passive to have more mana + mana regen on boots.
Also i prefer to use double curse vixen (temp chain + despair) and this low down my damage. But i take your version as base to find the best configuration for my playstyle. Let's see, i keep you updated.


Hehe, I hope you enjoy the trickster too! It's probably the best ascendancy against dot and probably best fitting to all the defensive layers of the build.

For mana I use often one passive clever thief mana on hit with cyclone in melee range. Damage recouped as mana on a ghastly jewel or in a mana-mastery is awesome also. Or try out ball lightning of static in place of ball lightning of orbiting. Less aoe, but also less mana needed. A block-mastery +20 mana on block would be best, but needs so much passives. Or use an enduring mana-flask, quicksilver is not so effective with cyclone.

More mana-tipps are listed in the spoiler "Manamaster" in "Balancing & Managing". Or simply take 0.3 sec to loot, then there is enough mana regenerated with mystic bulwark for the next tornado.

Your pathing and gear is almost perfect, great crawled!

Use resi prismatic-catalysts on the mageblood. Probably some more resis on clustertransfers would be great. Then push out the jewel of insolation, put in amanamus gaze for 20% more damage.
Or regret the mana-passives deep thought, use a second small cluster sublime form instead the jewel of insolation.

Get 1x tattoo Ramako Shaman spell suppression for the last 1%.
And 3x tattoo Tawhoa Shaman poison on hit for more virulences (only when you miss sometimes max stacks).

Use corrosive armourer scrabs on the helmet for quality and es (+200 es).
You have enough dex and don`t need charisma or magebane, so you can path around pain attunement insead spreme ego for more int, es and mana (+200 es).

Es-Leech is in the moment actual only around 150/sec and would need to be optimized with higher ball-lightning levels, arcane surge, etc....
So probably one step ahead is better as soul drinker in the ascendancy.

Yeeees, above 25M there are not so many differences and balancing into tankyness or qol is great. I often prefer 2 curses-gloves also and the free skillslot is valuable.

Edited: I answered in the Trickster-forum too.
Last edited by Chromino on Jun 26, 2024, 8:25:43 AM
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Chromino wrote:

Hehe, I hope you enjoy the trickster too! It's probably the best ascendancy against dot and probably best fitting to all the defensive layers of the build.

For mana I use often one passive clever thief mana on hit with cyclone in melee range. Damage recouped as mana on a ghastly jewel or in a mana-mastery is awesome also. Or try out ball lightning of static in place of ball lightning of orbiting. Less aoe, but also less mana needed. A block-mastery +20 mana on block would be best, but needs so much passives. Or use an enduring mana-flask, quicksilver is not so effective with cyclone.

More mana-tipps are listed in the spoiler "Manamaster" in "Balancing & Managing". Or simply take 0.3 sec to loot, then there is enough mana regenerated with mystic bulwark for the next tornado.

Your pathing and gear is almost perfect, great crawled!

Use resi prismatic-catalysts on the mageblood. Probably some more resis on clustertransfers would be great. Then push out the jewel of insolation, put in amanamus gaze for 20% more damage.
Or regret the mana-passives deep thought, use a second small cluster sublime form instead the jewel of insolation.

Get 1x tattoo Ramako Shaman spell suppression for the last 1%.
And 3x tattoo Tawhoa Shaman poison on hit for more virulences (only when you miss sometimes max stacks).

Use corrosive armourer scrabs on the helmet for quality and es (+200 es).
You have enough dex and don`t need charisma or magebane, so you can path around pain attunement insead spreme ego for more int, es and mana (+200 es).

Es-Leech is in the moment actual only around 150/sec and would need to be optimized with higher ball-lightning levels, arcane surge, etc....
So probably one step ahead is better as soul drinker in the ascendancy.

Yeeees, above 25M there are not so many differences and balancing into tankyness or qol is great. I often prefer 2 curses-gloves also and the free skillslot is valuable.

Edited: I answered in the Trickster-forum too.


Ehi mate, i'm late but i wanted to thank you for your last tips, they've been very useful.
Finally I've completed the build with the perfect balance for my personal playstyle: i wanted very high tankyness, decent damage, high movement speed, no problem with mana (yes, i want pretty everything), and here it is: https://pobb.in/_cIFO9z9a6XJ
I tried various U-bosses and it works perfectly, almost immortal with enough damage to melt them in decent time. I really like high speed so i got onslaught ring + mov tattoo + phase run in automation + quicksilver flask = top of 250% speed.
I resolved mana problem with another magic jewel which grant bleeding immunity, so i put legacy 25% reduced mana cost of skills on quicksilver flask and i can cyclone while casting all spells forever. Also i noticed a 3 link cyclone with just light orb of orbiting is almost the same to get fast virulence as orb + tornado, and it costs less mana.
I'm using glancing blows so i've got 6 passives to invest in damage and another jewel socket.
Now the char is perfect (just for my playstyle as said). And it's wonderfully satisfying.
It's possible to get more tankyness with basalt flask and of course more damage investing tons of divines, but at this point i don't think it has great sense.
Thanks again for this genius setup and ofc if there are some more tips you want to add to my build i'm all ears.
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Marrangha wrote:
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Chromino wrote:

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Ehi mate, i'm late but i wanted to thank you for your last tips, they've been very useful.
Finally I've completed the build with the perfect balance for my personal playstyle: i wanted very high tankyness, decent damage, high movement speed, no problem with mana (yes, i want pretty everything), and here it is: https://pobb.in/_cIFO9z9a6XJ
I tried various U-bosses and it works perfectly, almost immortal with enough damage to melt them in decent time. I really like high speed so i got onslaught ring + mov tattoo + phase run in automation + quicksilver flask = top of 250% speed.
I resolved mana problem with another magic jewel which grant bleeding immunity, so i put legacy 25% reduced mana cost of skills on quicksilver flask and i can cyclone while casting all spells forever. Also i noticed a 3 link cyclone with just light orb of orbiting is almost the same to get fast virulence as orb + tornado, and it costs less mana.
I'm using glancing blows so i've got 6 passives to invest in damage and another jewel socket.
Now the char is perfect (just for my playstyle as said). And it's wonderfully satisfying.
It's possible to get more tankyness with basalt flask and of course more damage investing tons of divines, but at this point i don't think it has great sense.
Thanks again for this genius setup and ofc if there are some more tips you want to add to my build i'm all ears.


Awesome pathed and stinged!

And the movementspeed and mana-qol are perfect builded!
Yes, with 100% poisonchance on spellhit and enough mana ball lightning of orbiting is enough in most content.
I am very interested how you prefer the different ascendancies!

Hehehe, I answered in the trickster-ascendancy already too. 🌴🦂🌪️

Arachnophilia!
I've played the Arachnophobia Allstars build, it’s as epic in practice as it sounds on paper. I felt virtually invincible, tanking hits that would normally wipe out most other builds.

This build isn't just about surviving, it's about thriving in the harshest conditions
If you want to feel like an unstoppable force, effortlessly mowing down enemies and laughing in the face of danger, this is the build to play.
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Mispleled wrote:
I've played the Arachnophobia Allstars build, it’s as epic in practice as it sounds on paper. I felt virtually invincible, tanking hits that would normally wipe out most other builds.

This build isn't just about surviving, it's about thriving in the harshest conditions
If you want to feel like an unstoppable force, effortlessly mowing down enemies and laughing in the face of danger, this is the build to play.


Thank you a lot Mispleled!

hehehe, yes, often it's a passion with this build just run into next big crowd and boss to be healed again bathing in their attacks.

Arachnophilia!

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