removed anger from my link setup: haste is a 6% dmg increase anger is 17.5%
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Posted bySlottmon Nov 1, 2021, 2:20:09 PM
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So this build straight up just isn't designed for Sirus I guess. Because I can't see any logical way you're able to decent enough damage to make it viable with how convoluted the arena becomes on the final stage with zones of death everywhere. No vaal skills, and next to no uptime. The single Target feels weak, and there just seems to be a fine line of avoiding everything and being oneshot, which is much more likely on bosses. I really don't know how other people are getting such great results.
The spell damage supression chance is key. It makes you "tank" the normal shots. I don't know why in the final stage I have lots of degen on the ground or not.
You have to use your whirling blades to get closer to him in the first/second phase and after meteor. Use flame dash only to dodge the rotating beam.
Understand that you have few moments to "apply dps". You have to use them to fullest. I failed 2 a8 sirus when league starting and it got better.
Watching through this, you seem to be substantially more tanky to be able to tank the beams and have significantly more damage. Your tree is quite hugely different to the one in the build as well, so now i'm not sure whether it's because of the tree, or if i'm missing out on significant stuff gear wise. Of which i'm struggling to figure out upgrades that aren't 5-6ex+ each.
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Posted byThejimmyladon Nov 1, 2021, 2:34:25 PM
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So this build straight up just isn't designed for Sirus I guess. Because I can't see any logical way you're able to decent enough damage to make it viable with how convoluted the arena becomes on the final stage with zones of death everywhere. No vaal skills, and next to no uptime. The single Target feels weak, and there just seems to be a fine line of avoiding everything and being oneshot, which is much more likely on bosses. I really don't know how other people are getting such great results.
The spell damage supression chance is key. It makes you "tank" the normal shots. I don't know why in the final stage I have lots of degen on the ground or not.
You have to use your whirling blades to get closer to him in the first/second phase and after meteor. Use flame dash only to dodge the rotating beam.
Understand that you have few moments to "apply dps". You have to use them to fullest. I failed 2 a8 sirus when league starting and it got better.
Watching through this, you seem to be substantially more tanky to be able to tank the beams and have significantly more damage. Your tree is quite hugely different to the one in the build as well, so now i'm not sure whether it's because of the tree, or if i'm missing out on significant stuff gear wise. Of which i'm struggling to figure out upgrades that aren't 5-6ex+ each.
You have to see the new videos fuzzy is doing. They have updated pobs.
He can tank the lasers because of spell damage supression chance. Check his position. He has a "beam" coming in front of him and another on sirus. Positioning matters a LOT.
Ele penetration matters, there is a claw for 2 exa that should be a great upgrade for you: https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Scourge/v4Jmd8BuE
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Posted byxikoritaon Nov 1, 2021, 3:04:46 PM
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I do supposedly have 99% spell suppression chance, although ingame says 100, must be getting insanely unlucky if that 1% is the cause of my deaths. I'll change the shield up, get a chest with power charge generation and look at getting a claw similar to the one you linked if it sells before I can get the cash for it and see how that does.
I've switched the tree up to the one you have and seen a big change in damage at least. Just need more crit so I can replace the diamond flask with a granite one. Cheers bud.
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Posted byThejimmyladon Nov 1, 2021, 3:26:22 PM
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I do supposedly have 99% spell suppression chance, although ingame says 100, must be getting insanely unlucky if that 1% is the cause of my deaths. I'll change the shield up, get a chest with power charge generation and look at getting a claw similar to the one you linked if it sells before I can get the cash for it and see how that does.
I've switched the tree up to the one you have and seen a big change in damage at least. Just need more crit so I can replace the diamond flask with a granite one. Cheers bud.
The claw is the most important thing in that list.
I use determination and more Armour in flasks. The one from the video has more damage than mine. I have more zoom zoom with darkray and farrul guaranteeing power and frenzy charges.
Install exilence next and check all your tabs. You have more money than you think.
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Posted byxikoritaon Nov 1, 2021, 3:32:36 PM
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I do supposedly have 99% spell suppression chance, although ingame says 100, must be getting insanely unlucky if that 1% is the cause of my deaths. I'll change the shield up, get a chest with power charge generation and look at getting a claw similar to the one you linked if it sells before I can get the cash for it and see how that does.
I've switched the tree up to the one you have and seen a big change in damage at least. Just need more crit so I can replace the diamond flask with a granite one. Cheers bud.
The claw is the most important thing in that list.
I use determination and more Armour in flasks. The one from the video has more damage than mine. I have more zoom zoom with darkray and farrul guaranteeing power and frenzy charges.
Install exilence next and check all your tabs. You have more money than you think.
Right, I forgot that was a thing. I got lucky and found a 6 linked thicket bow in the meantime anyway so was able to sell that. There's two claws going at 2ex at the moment, which one was it you were pointing towards, the Damnation Bite one? Both mentioned less total DPS than the one I currently have, though i'm not sure if it takes ele pen into account.
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Posted byThejimmyladon Nov 1, 2021, 4:29:03 PM
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Right, I forgot that was a thing. I got lucky and found a 6 linked thicket bow in the meantime anyway so was able to sell that. There's two claws going at 2ex at the moment, which one was it you were pointing towards, the Damnation Bite one? Both mentioned less total DPS than the one I currently have, though i'm not sure if it takes ele pen into account.
PoB does take ele pen into account. Make sure your target is set to be Sirus.
If you take an item that has basically nothing but a load of ele pen, and swap your target between 'No Boss' and 'Sirus' in PoB, you'll see it actually adds more DPS on Sirus than regular trash.
e.g. unequip your amulet, make a fake shaper amulet with nothing but prefix elevated ele penetration, then swap targets... PoB sirus dps will be several percent higher than standard trash dps cos pen matters more with him.
It's possibly worth noting that you can sorta muscle through ele pen to some degree. I haven't checked it on this build so I'm talking hand-wavey general case, but I've had a lot of builds where T1 elemental damage with attacks was better than the crafted ele pen most people were taking in imitation of the top of poe.ninja, but was worse than the veiled/elevated ele pen that top of poe.ninja was actually using.
Edit: As Slottm pointed out, it's not even close for this build - the 1H version of edwa is substantially weaker than the 2H setups I was thinking of and the ele pen is identical for both 1H & 2H.
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Posted byLakhon Nov 1, 2021, 7:12:38 PM
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Im just tryna figure out how you guys are all 5k+ life, ive barely scraped 4.1k LOL
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Posted byKingRyjo53on Nov 1, 2021, 7:27:55 PM
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Right, I forgot that was a thing. I got lucky and found a 6 linked thicket bow in the meantime anyway so was able to sell that. There's two claws going at 2ex at the moment, which one was it you were pointing towards, the Damnation Bite one? Both mentioned less total DPS than the one I currently have, though i'm not sure if it takes ele pen into account.
PoB does take ele pen into account. Make sure your target is set to be Sirus.
If you take an item that has basically nothing but a load of ele pen, and swap your target between 'No Boss' and 'Sirus' in PoB, you'll see it actually adds more DPS on Sirus than regular trash.
e.g. unequip your amulet, make a fake shaper amulet with nothing but prefix elevated ele penetration, then swap targets... PoB sirus dps will be several percent higher than standard trash dps cos pen matters more with him.
It's possibly worth noting that you can sorta muscle through ele pen to some degree. I haven't checked it on this build so I'm talking hand-wavey general case, but I've had a lot of builds where T1 elemental damage with attacks was better than the crafted ele pen most people were taking in imitation of the top of poe.ninja, but was worse than the veiled/elevated ele pen that top of poe.ninja was actually using.
It's not even close, ele pen is probably the best stat this build can get. elemental damage with attacks is much worse
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Posted bySlottmon Nov 1, 2021, 8:27:46 PM
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Im just tryna figure out how you guys are all 5k+ life, ive barely scraped 4.1k LOL
Because the other numbers are important. The different mitigations.
What matters is that you survive the "big hit" and don't die while chugging the life flask.
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Posted byxikoritaon Nov 1, 2021, 10:36:52 PM
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