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Standard 1 golem
Primordial Chain +3 golem
Ascendancy +2 golem
Anima Stone +2 golem
Its 8. How i can have 9 golems ?
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Kielaq wrote:
Standard 1 golem
Primordial Chain +3 golem
Ascendancy +2 golem
Anima Stone +2 golem
Its 8. How i can have 9 golems ?


Allocate Golem Commander on passive tree.
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luckstar53 wrote:
Using Anger instead of Wrath is worth?
Saw some people on poe.ninja ant they're using Anger with Anger ExtraFireDmg+Leech Watcher's Eye. Basically gains 1k leech rate but loses 2-3m dps aganist wrath. Also he is using thread of hope instead of timeless jewell and takes 4-5 node RMR because of he is running LV20 Clarity. Changes Mana flask to -> Bottled faith or Taste of Hate..

Strange...

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Hero_UA/Flaming_ass_?i=1&search=class%3DElementalist%26skill%3DBurning-Arrow%26allskill%3DAnger%2CClarity%26sort%3Ddps


can someone compare and he check my profile? How do you think I'm going? i will buy the shoes and quiver tomorrow.


Pretty sure people who put bottled faith / vessel of vinktair on poe ninja are just pob warriors trying to pump their dps for show. You can't play without the mana flask (mana flask gives you 300 regen/sec vs clarity's 30/sec which can't possilby be enough) and its very uncomfortable playing without quicksilver unless you are just farming elders or something.

The difference between wrath/anger/hatred is marginal. I'm using hatred because its the cheapest 2-mod eye. Now wrath does give u some dps boost over hatred/anger but i definitely wouldnt pay more for an anger eye.

You don't need more leech/regen than the build already has - the amount u get from stone golem/xoph's nurture/cinderswallow/atziri's promiste is more than enough. If you really want elemental leech i'm pretty sure there's other ways to acquire that instead of buying a double anger eye.

Also his eye doesn't have malevolence on it which is a giant dps loss.
Last edited by trancenergy11 on May 25, 2021, 12:46:36 PM
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trancenergy11 wrote:
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luckstar53 wrote:
Using Anger instead of Wrath is worth?
Saw some people on poe.ninja ant they're using Anger with Anger ExtraFireDmg+Leech Watcher's Eye. Basically gains 1k leech rate but loses 2-3m dps aganist wrath. Also he is using thread of hope instead of timeless jewell and takes 4-5 node RMR because of he is running LV20 Clarity. Changes Mana flask to -> Bottled faith or Taste of Hate..

Strange...

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Hero_UA/Flaming_ass_?i=1&search=class%3DElementalist%26skill%3DBurning-Arrow%26allskill%3DAnger%2CClarity%26sort%3Ddps


can someone compare and he check my profile? How do you think I'm going? i will buy the shoes and quiver tomorrow.


Pretty sure people who put bottled faith / vessel of vinktair on poe ninja are just pob warriors trying to pump their dps for show. You can't play without the mana flask (mana flask gives you 300 regen/sec vs clarity's 30/sec which can't possilby be enough) and its very uncomfortable playing without quicksilver unless you are just farming elders or something.

The difference between wrath/anger/hatred is marginal. I'm using hatred because its the cheapest 2-mod eye. Now wrath does give u some dps boost over hatred/anger but i definitely wouldnt pay more for an anger eye.

You don't need more leech/regen than the build already has - the amount u get from stone golem/xoph's nurture/cinderswallow/atziri's promiste is more than enough. If you really want elemental leech i'm pretty sure there's other ways to acquire that instead of buying a double anger eye.

Also his eye doesn't have malevolence on it which is a giant dps loss.


im just here to say that this build is absolutely playable without a mana flask.

bottled faith instead of mana flask is definitely not a pob warrior thing.
last league i used chainbreaker so i didnt even have any mana regen and i didnt need a mana flask.
i had divergent elemental with attacks tireless cluster/ 1 ring with -10 mana cost and thats all u need.


about using anger or wrath +leech watchers eye.

its a possibility but not worth it at all imo.
if u want leech just get 1 small life cluster with fest of flesh.
watchers eye stats are way to good to waste on leech.
if u find a cheap eye with the leech for "free". then it can be a good budget option but definitly nothing u would get when minmaxing.

Not sure if this question already came up, but wouldn't it be better to use herald of ash and herald of thunder instead of wrath and stormbrand ?
Herald of thunder keeps the overload buff up without any manual cast. And herald of ash alone gives us comparable damage output as wrath. So together both should give more damage output.
Or am I missing something ?

Edit : Got my answer, herald says "deals lightning damage" and wrath is "adds lightning damage to attacks". So even having two heralds I'm actually losing some dps
Last edited by posixraven on May 25, 2021, 1:54:32 PM
Your missing a Watchers Eye.
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Wodahs wrote:
Your missing a Watchers Eye.


Malevolence + wrath watchers eye costs a ton and if I were to only use malevolence watchers eye, wouldn't having 2 heralds make more sense ? Also that is one additional buff which works well with mantra of flames.
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karlklaps wrote:
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trancenergy11 wrote:
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luckstar53 wrote:
Using Anger instead of Wrath is worth?
Saw some people on poe.ninja ant they're using Anger with Anger ExtraFireDmg+Leech Watcher's Eye. Basically gains 1k leech rate but loses 2-3m dps aganist wrath. Also he is using thread of hope instead of timeless jewell and takes 4-5 node RMR because of he is running LV20 Clarity. Changes Mana flask to -> Bottled faith or Taste of Hate..

Strange...

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/Hero_UA/Flaming_ass_?i=1&search=class%3DElementalist%26skill%3DBurning-Arrow%26allskill%3DAnger%2CClarity%26sort%3Ddps


can someone compare and he check my profile? How do you think I'm going? i will buy the shoes and quiver tomorrow.


Pretty sure people who put bottled faith / vessel of vinktair on poe ninja are just pob warriors trying to pump their dps for show. You can't play without the mana flask (mana flask gives you 300 regen/sec vs clarity's 30/sec which can't possilby be enough) and its very uncomfortable playing without quicksilver unless you are just farming elders or something.

The difference between wrath/anger/hatred is marginal. I'm using hatred because its the cheapest 2-mod eye. Now wrath does give u some dps boost over hatred/anger but i definitely wouldnt pay more for an anger eye.

You don't need more leech/regen than the build already has - the amount u get from stone golem/xoph's nurture/cinderswallow/atziri's promiste is more than enough. If you really want elemental leech i'm pretty sure there's other ways to acquire that instead of buying a double anger eye.

Also his eye doesn't have malevolence on it which is a giant dps loss.


im just here to say that this build is absolutely playable without a mana flask.

bottled faith instead of mana flask is definitely not a pob warrior thing.
last league i used chainbreaker so i didnt even have any mana regen and i didnt need a mana flask.
i had divergent elemental with attacks tireless cluster/ 1 ring with -10 mana cost and thats all u need.


about using anger or wrath +leech watchers eye.

its a possibility but not worth it at all imo.
if u want leech just get 1 small life cluster with fest of flesh.
watchers eye stats are way to good to waste on leech.
if u find a cheap eye with the leech for "free". then it can be a good budget option but definitly nothing u would get when minmaxing.



For leech the best option is corrupted amulet with .5% fire dmg leeched as life. Costs 1-2ex on trade gives about 800 leech/sec.

For mana reg that's a lot of things u need to drop the mana flask. Just divergent ele dmg with attacks alone is not enough i tried it.
Last edited by trancenergy11 on May 25, 2021, 3:13:18 PM
"For leech the best option is corrupted amulet with .5% fire dmg leeched as life. Costs 1-2ex on trade gives about 800 leech/sec.

For mana reg that's a lot of things u need to drop the mana flask. Just divergent ele dmg with attacks alone is not enough i tried it.
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plz dont state things u obviously dont know that much about as facts.

I am not saying i am right 100% but i played this build for 2 months last league and tested all that stuff a lot.
I am also happy that hardprimat linked my "version" on his main post to show a minmaxed tanky version.

to ur points.

yes a corrupted leech amulet is an option. The best one? not even close why would it be? plz argue if i miss something.
There was 1 online for 3 ex with the right annoint. and u can get way better corruptions anyway.
way easier to get the leech on a small cluster and u want the life anyway imo.

about the mana, yeah i never said u only need divergent.
but divergent edwa with tireless cluster + -mana cost on ring works perfectly. source . i leveled the build like that to 100 did around 100 double guardians, aproxx 70 elder and 30 uberelder .

im always happy to argue and learn more but plz avoid stating opinions like facts, u mislead ppl like that and it doenst help anyone.

edit, i just checked out ur char, rly nice gear u got , grats!
do be aware though that with replica emberwake ur combustion woc combo will only work very very shortly, like 0.3 seconds i think.
not sure if worth it
Last edited by karlklaps on May 25, 2021, 3:40:43 PM
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karlklaps wrote:
"For leech the best option is corrupted amulet with .5% fire dmg leeched as life. Costs 1-2ex on trade gives about 800 leech/sec.

For mana reg that's a lot of things u need to drop the mana flask. Just divergent ele dmg with attacks alone is not enough i tried it.
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plz dont state things u obviously dont know that much about as facts.

I am not saying i am right 100% but i played this build for 2 months last league and tested all that stuff a lot.
I am also happy that hardprimat linked my "version" on his main post to show a minmaxed tanky version.

to ur points.

yes a corrupted leech amulet is an option. The best one? not even close why would it be? plz argue if i miss something.
There was 1 online for 3 ex with the right annoint. and u can get way better corruptions anyway.
way easier to get the leech on a small cluster and u want the life anyway imo.

about the mana, yeah i never said u only need divergent.
but divergent edwa with tireless cluster + -mana cost on ring works perfectly. source . i leveled the build like that to 100 did around 100 double guardians, aproxx 70 elder and 30 uberelder .

im always happy to argue and learn more but plz avoid stating opinions like facts, u mislead ppl like that and it doenst help anyone.

edit, i just checked out ur char, rly nice gear u got , grats!
do be aware though that with replica emberwake ur combustion woc combo will only work very very shortly, like 0.3 seconds i think.
not sure if worth it


First of all i'm not here to argue. I'm here to give people options that i think are good. I've played the build enough at this point to have my own opinions about things. It's great that u have past league experience at it and your tanky input certainly helped but it is very outdated for current league to say the least.

For me corrupted amulet is an OKAY option when you are minmaxing like me. I agree its not the best. You can easily get attack damage leech from stuff like quiver/ring/timeless etc (which i would never do purposely because u can get much better affixes on them and my timeless jewel already has leech and .5% attack damage leech will already hit your leech/sec cap).

But a small cluster is even a WORSE option on an extremely jewel slot starved build. I can only fit 1 non-unique jewel into my build and it is VERY important to me to the point that i would never drop it for a small cluster even if i wanted leech for some weird reason.

Ok so lets say u spec into Tireless, - mana costs on ring ( which is terrible btw this league because of the way stuff is crafted u definitely do not want to spend your bench/aisling on mana costs) and use divergent EDWA. Your BA still costs 30 mana at least in a <100 mana pool. For bossing - sure, definitely great setup. Drop Quicksilver, Drop Mana flask, put in Bottled Faith and Vessel if you for some reason aren't already killing/phasing every boss in the game in 1 second

For mapping definitely not - i just don't see it working. That is for COMFORTABLE mapping, not pob warrioring. But since u insist that its that GOOD i will surely give it a try.

On replica emberwake u are right. I haven't been using it at all lately. I have so much faster ignite on my gear (including 30% on my timeless jewel) with replica emberwake my ignites last for like less that a second and i don't like having to stand still to constantly reapply them.

Your section in the guide definitely has some great points on it. Especially about the speed mapping which is the build's weakest point.

But its missing some things i'm using this league:
Aisling Movespeed - 42%, Boots 10% enchant, Elevated Tailwind, corrupted amulet with 10% movespeed and the 10% ms quiver (that you have) which turn this build into an actual fast mapper that doesn't totally rely on headhunter for moving around fast.
Last edited by trancenergy11 on May 25, 2021, 6:05:51 PM

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