Clarifying the Ascendancy Changes

Ur nerfed 40% damage from saboteur if used a mine recently where is the buff?

Miner wasn't meta , why got nerf ? Nerf the aura stackers and can't will be meta builds.

translation - "so you think we nerfed everything, when in fact we buffed everything" LOL

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Caulder10 wrote:

lol
speed, damage or defence are literally all that matters in poe.

Also, impale Champion CLEARLY got nerfed again, not sure how they could insist that wasn't intentional. And that's FINE. Just don't pee on me and tell me it's raining.

Most changes are just straight nerfs with no "powerful new option" in sight XD

It is ok if you want to nerf ascendancies but don't try to present it as buffs when they are not.

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INFINITY-BLOOD wrote:

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lonestaRip wrote:

nice clarification.

but whats wrong with hierophant？hiero is never a top build choice and you remove "summon two totems instead".

wow you guys really hate totems.

Tbh i thought that this part of the ascendancy was redundant since it didn't stack with the support gem that gives +Max summoned totems and i always used that gem in a totem build guess i was wrong then :D

Yes you were, multiple totem support was worse than crit strike support in spell totems.

@GGG

I'd like to know if the new ricochet affect skills that normally cant chain like scourge arrow's thorn arrows?

Okay look, I am not one for being rude without constructive feedback so here you go:

In my opinion, I believe (along with most of the community) that ascendencies have been overall nerfed. Move speed, aoe, dmg, everything.

It honestly feels like we are just being slowed down in terms of progress. As a new player it would feel like moving and playing like a snail. It doesn't help either that you guys spent time buffing ascendencies in past patches just to nerf them back into the same spot where they are un-played.

Personally, I do not appreciate being told that I am feeling the "loss more than the gain" when there are passives which literally just love stuff. Look at necromancer for example. Not a single buff.

Once again, personally, I feel like ascendancy should be the strongest thing in the game in terms of determining your chosen method of playstyle. Why? Because on its own it creates build diversity. Let's say champion is the impale ascendancy. Everyone who plays champion will impale. But they can use different skills to impale. It determines playstyle. But then by nerfing impale and making the ascendancy less relevant and putting power into gems, now instead of having a bunch of different skills using impale, you have a bunch of people using impale, with the same skill just on different classes with the only difference being, "hey I have 0% chaos res but you have 10% (because of items or something)".

I am not here to shit on this game. I quite enjoy it. I just believe that 1. I don't appreciate being told that nerfs are actually "buffs". Be straightforward. Be honest. As for 2. I think that overall this patch is reducing build diversity. Of all things, ascendancy should be the one thing that isn't nerfed. Skills and spectre, sure. I'll make a new minion build. Nerf necromancer? all minions are dead except the specific one that you choose to buff in the patch so now instead of spectres, carrion golems, phantasms and whatnot you just have one meta build with one ascendancy with one skill. Finally 3. I think that you guys have a put a lot of work and effort into this patch, however, I believe that you need to try to understand the way that the community creates and plays builds before nerfing ascendancy. I feel as though, even though its a lot to ask, I feel the entire community would appreciate a minor overhaul on some of these ascendancies, putting some of the power back into them. No one uses power/ frenzy/ endurance charge duration. We all like aoe, dmg and move speed, which just so happen to be the things that you took out, naming "side skills" or something.

All in all, this is trying to shed light on why I think what I think about this patch. I apologize if I sound salty because I'm trying to sound straightforward at the moment.

Cheers,
Void.

I just wanna say, both on Reddit and the forums, I think Bex is doing an excellent job.

Reserving my screaming tantrum until I see the patch notes. Impale Champ got nerfed? Did impale gem get buffed? Etc.

I hope GGG also changes the cost to refund Ascendancy passives. Since they are reducing the strength of the Ascendancy minor passives down to the same as regular minor passives, I really hope they wont still cost 5 refund points each.