[3.12] Invincible Spectres Necro Summoner - HC Viable - Boss Killer - High Clear Speed

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You can look at my character to see what equipment I am using for this build currently.


Are you sure Vis mortis is worth it compared to a +1 spectre chest ?

You can get more life, resists, one more spectre worth +25% more compared to what..

-> 15& increased damage
-> reduced life on all your minions
-> additional chaos damage...which it's ok but it's not something we are scaling here.

What do you think about a shield with chance to gain life on block ?
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1462987
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azamantes wrote:
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You can look at my character to see what equipment I am using for this build currently.


Are you sure Vis mortis is worth it compared to a +1 spectre chest ?

You can get more life, resists, one more spectre worth +25% more compared to what..

-> 15& increased damage
-> reduced life on all your minions
-> additional chaos damage...which it's ok but it's not something we are scaling here.

What do you think about a shield with chance to gain life on block ?


The tricky part of this build is that our phantasms do about 62% of the damage from our spectre-setup; more than the spectres themselves. Another spectre doesn't benefit the damage of our phantasms, but Vis Mortis benefit all minions.

Comparing the damage of our phantasms and spectres alone, one more spectre does about ~0.7% more damage, while comparing all our minions, one more spectre does about ~0.8% less damage. My point being that they are virtually the same in terms of damage, and Vis Mortis is a lot cheaper to get.

I might still get a +1 to number of spectres body armor eventually, but it'll likely be the last thing I invest in due to how expensive they are to acquire, compared to how small of an upgrade it is.

Shields with gain life are interesting. However, not being able to give your minions power and frenzy charges will mean a ~40% drop in damage, due to how hugely beneficial charges are to minions. Critical hits, and critical hits that also deal double damage in particular, will chill and freeze monsters much more reliably. Without power charges, our minions will have 0% chance to crit with Controlled Destruction Support. Together with the lack of frenzy charges for yourself, I doubt the life gain can offset the loss of speed, chill, and freeze, before considering the staggering loss of damage.

Using Divergent Spell Echo Support, a critical hit with double damage that is the last repeat of the spell for our spectres deals nearly triple damage and will happen on every ~20 hit, which is every other second without considering Unendig Hunger. Because the calculation involves a critical hit, roll for freeze is guaranteed, but this whole calculation will be greatly crippled without the chance to critically hit from power charges.
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biggunndunn wrote:

What are the next few pieces are you planing on upgrading next?


I am working on fossil crafting a pair of +1 to level of all Raise Spectre Gems boots with movement speed and some resistances right this moment. Afterwards, I will upgrade my rare items to ones with better rolls.

I'd also like to have Ravenous Horde anointed on my amulet. For this I will need a bit more block, likely from a perfect Rumi's Concoction and/or by corrupting my amulet to give block, which will likely be expensive. A level 21 Bone Offering might also help.

Eventually, I'd like to get a strong Bone Helmet and likely a +1 to maximum number of spectres body armour, and I also need a better rolled Cyclopean Coil with life quality.

Besides that, I could work on my pantheon and getting more quality on my gems and/or more level 21 gems.
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Invincible


Necromancer tormented spirits say "hi, no build is invincible/immune" :)
I am emotionally & mentally drained through the sharking waters.
Last edited by bvanharjr on Oct 8, 2020, 8:44:19 AM

How are you trying to craft the boots ? What fossils ?

I was looking at crafting simulator....and for +1 spectre and movement speed you need on average 180 chaos....

At these estimates it seems way more easier to just buy them.

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Heist/YpBVWKviY

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1462987
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azamantes wrote:

How are you trying to craft the boots ? What fossils ?

I was looking at crafting simulator....and for +1 spectre and movement speed you need on average 180 chaos....

At these estimates it seems way more easier to just buy them.

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Heist/YpBVWKviY



You can find the best method for crafting the boots under the Acquiring and Crafting Items section of the guide. You can rather easily make a pair of boots with better roles than those listed at 300c+, and with your preferred base.

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bvanharjr wrote:
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Invincible


Necromancer tormented spirits say "hi, no build is invincible/immune" :)


If you'd read the guide you'd know that it's referring to the spectres and not the build, and I make the point myself that minions aren't, in fact, invincible, though for the majority of common end-game content they might as well be. But I'm sure your point is very clever.
Last edited by Drakkashi on Oct 8, 2020, 10:58:50 AM
Hello !

I'm currently playing your build and enjoying it. But it seems i have a little problem with Frost Sentinels, maybe you have the same bug than me or not, i've reported it already but i wanted to post here about it.

For now, Frost Sentinel ice spear does not pierce at all. Instead, it fork, chain, but no pierce here. I've tried many things to make sure nothing is modifying the way the spectres shoot, removing all items and gems but the result is still the same. With a Pierce Support it does work, but without it doesn't.
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Oozora wrote:
Hello !

I'm currently playing your build and enjoying it. But it seems i have a little problem with Frost Sentinels, maybe you have the same bug than me or not, i've reported it already but i wanted to post here about it.

For now, Frost Sentinel ice spear does not pierce at all. Instead, it fork, chain, but no pierce here. I've tried many things to make sure nothing is modifying the way the spectres shoot, removing all items and gems but the result is still the same. With a Pierce Support it does work, but without it doesn't.


Frost Sentinel's projectiles won't pierce before traveling a significant distance. I'm not sure about the exact distance, but it seems to be something between a half and a full screen length, which happens rarely.

We mostly rely on our phantasms for piercing, and benefit from Frost Sentinel's innate fork and 2 - 3 additional projectiles.
Drak, I see you're using a replica Reckless Defense - I've got both a Fettle and Feast of Flesh small cluster that I use. Since block is 71 attack and 72 spell, would I benefit more from the extra 3/4% block than an extra 400+ hp? Fettle kind of feels better with all of the small hits from Heist so far.

Also, I crafted a +1 minion 90% minion dmg 16% atk/cast speed wand today, but I'm assuming a +2 wand will still have more DPS? It's hard to calculate minion dps through pob but I'm starting to really tear through stuff.

Nice build, thanks! Lots of fun to play!
@ Drakkashi ,thanks for your effort,

I was looking for something new in standard and followed your build (lvl 81 right now)
Its fun and easy to play, I am just wondering if frost sentinels are the best spectres in place for cold damage(regarding my PoB I have around 300K Sirius dps with those frost sentinels) maybe you can give me some advise for other spectres

thanks a lot

Dehlaa

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