[3.17] Wallach's Hierophant Freezing Pulse Totems (No Further Updates)

Thanks for the build, first time I lvlup a templar, lvl 98 so far so good !
never been so easy to chain sirus !

Curent gear :



Ho dps 316 k FP or 301 with 2 first snow

Keeping vitality and clarity in some case where map mods are a little in the way. Uber Lab many times to get some joyfull enchant on boots and belt (still thinking of replacing gloves enchant)
I miss this build and I hope Wallach will look into the viability for 3.16.

Edit: "The Elemental Overload Keystone Passive Skill now gives more Hit and Ailment Elemental Damage to Skills if they crit in the last 8 seconds. " Does this mean its going to work with totems now?
Last edited by Fenris1970#2647 on Oct 10, 2021, 3:13:26 PM
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Fenris1970 wrote:
I miss this build and I hope Wallach will look into the viability for 3.16.

Edit: "The Elemental Overload Keystone Passive Skill now gives more Hit and Ailment Elemental Damage to Skills if they crit in the last 8 seconds. " Does this mean its going to work with totems now?


It does kind of sound like it would work, but we'll have to see the final wording on the keystone to know for sure.

As far as updating the build for 3.16, we'll have to see. I wasn't really happy with the state of it in 3.15, so I'd probably only do that if it looked like the build got a sizeable damage buff in 3.16.
Well, I wasn't expecting a big passive tree rework this patch.

Even if I don't wind up playing Freezing Pulse totems this league, I'll go ahead and get at least a basic update done for the guide so folks have some kind of resource to reference at league start.

I suspect the build overall is probably slightly buffed compared to last patch. Cannot be Frozen from Brine King, curse mitigation buffs making it easier to get into Essence Worm (and maybe even Coward's Legacy) without something like Viridi's, and maybe a few more efficient points from Ancestral Bond not having any weak minors leading into it. The small nerf to Soul Mantle is not really relevant in context of the life/mitigation change they made to Spell Totem.

We'll see if the full passive tree reveal shows anything more interesting, but overall I don't think it'll actually be a big shakeup for this build compared to last patch.
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Wallach wrote:
Well, I wasn't expecting a big passive tree rework this patch.

Even if I don't wind up playing Freezing Pulse totems this league, I'll go ahead and get at least a basic update done for the guide so folks have some kind of resource to reference at league start.

I suspect the build overall is probably slightly buffed compared to last patch. Cannot be Frozen from Brine King, curse mitigation buffs making it easier to get into Essence Worm (and maybe even Coward's Legacy) without something like Viridi's, and maybe a few more efficient points from Ancestral Bond not having any weak minors leading into it. The small nerf to Soul Mantle is not really relevant in context of the life/mitigation change they made to Spell Totem.

We'll see if the full passive tree reveal shows anything more interesting, but overall I don't think it'll actually be a big shakeup for this build compared to last patch.


Hi. Can you tell me please why some people swap FP to Ice Spear on bosses?
More damage?
Is it worth to use gem swap?
Thanks.
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Wallach wrote:
Well, I wasn't expecting a big passive tree rework this patch.

Even if I don't wind up playing Freezing Pulse totems this league, I'll go ahead and get at least a basic update done for the guide so folks have some kind of resource to reference at league start.

I suspect the build overall is probably slightly buffed compared to last patch. Cannot be Frozen from Brine King, curse mitigation buffs making it easier to get into Essence Worm (and maybe even Coward's Legacy) without something like Viridi's, and maybe a few more efficient points from Ancestral Bond not having any weak minors leading into it. The small nerf to Soul Mantle is not really relevant in context of the life/mitigation change they made to Spell Totem.

We'll see if the full passive tree reveal shows anything more interesting, but overall I don't think it'll actually be a big shakeup for this build compared to last patch.


You're tone sounds a bit indifferent, are you thinking the build is quite undertuned still, or just generally not that into POE atm?
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unne wrote:
Hi. Can you tell me please why some people swap FP to Ice Spear on bosses?
More damage?
Is it worth to use gem swap?
Thanks.


It's mainly to improve the relatively weak single target damage at early phases of gearing (like around league start). After the big 3.15 nerfs the last round of conquerors and first Sirus point of the league can start to feel pretty rough for single target damage depending on how your gearing went.

I only recommend it if you're having single target issues, and only if you are fighting the bosses that don't tend to move very much (Shaper, Elder, Sirus, Conuerors, Atziri, etc). Bosses like Shaper Guardians or Breachlords are pretty terrible for Ice Spear by comparison because you'll lose too much damage to their movement and you'd generally have better results just sticking to Freezing Pulse with its much more consistent screen coverage.

That said, all of the bosses that I'd consider Ice Spear good at are also bosses that are pretty controllable and telegraphed, so having lower DPS for them is generally not as bad as having poor DPS against something like Esh or Phoenix (which get significantly harder the longer you extend those encounters).

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IcedInferno007 wrote:
You're tone sounds a bit indifferent, are you thinking the build is quite undertuned still, or just generally not that into POE atm?


I'm actually excited for 3.16, as it seems like a nice turnaround for the game after a terrible 3.15 patch. The build probably still feels a bit undertuned after 3.15 but we'll have to see what comes of the passive tree changes. The curse mitigation changes should also improve the overall power curve of the build at leaguestart a bit too which is always nice.
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Wallach wrote:
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unne wrote:
Hi. Can you tell me please why some people swap FP to Ice Spear on bosses?
More damage?
Is it worth to use gem swap?
Thanks.


It's mainly to improve the relatively weak single target damage at early phases of gearing (like around league start). After the big 3.15 nerfs the last round of conquerors and first Sirus point of the league can start to feel pretty rough for single target damage depending on how your gearing went.

I only recommend it if you're having single target issues, and only if you are fighting the bosses that don't tend to move very much (Shaper, Elder, Sirus, Conuerors, Atziri, etc). Bosses like Shaper Guardians or Breachlords are pretty terrible for Ice Spear by comparison because you'll lose too much damage to their movement and you'd generally have better results just sticking to Freezing Pulse with its much more consistent screen coverage.

That said, all of the bosses that I'd consider Ice Spear good at are also bosses that are pretty controllable and telegraphed, so having lower DPS for them is generally not as bad as having poor DPS against something like Esh or Phoenix (which get significantly harder the longer you extend those encounters).

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IcedInferno007 wrote:
You're tone sounds a bit indifferent, are you thinking the build is quite undertuned still, or just generally not that into POE atm?


I'm actually excited for 3.16, as it seems like a nice turnaround for the game after a terrible 3.15 patch. The build probably still feels a bit undertuned after 3.15 but we'll have to see what comes of the passive tree changes. The curse mitigation changes should also improve the overall power curve of the build at leaguestart a bit too which is always nice.


Cool, will be nice to have you back. I vary between spectres and fp totem every league start, but as you've probably seen spectres have literally been deleted from the game!
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Wallach wrote:
Even if I don't wind up playing Freezing Pulse totems this league, I'll go ahead and get at least a basic update done for the guide so folks have some kind of resource to reference at league start.


Thank you for that! :)

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Wallach wrote:
We'll see if the full passive tree reveal shows anything more interesting, but overall I don't think it'll actually be a big shakeup for this build compared to last patch.


Even though the build itself wasn't directly buffed, with the nerfs of the recent popular/powerful builds (FR, spectres, SST, etc.) it will rise up in viability - compared to the other builds. So maybe it will be a good option again for someone who likes the playstyle.
Last edited by Fenris1970#2647 on Oct 15, 2021, 9:30:35 AM
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Wallach wrote:
Well, I wasn't expecting a big passive tree rework this patch.

Even if I don't wind up playing Freezing Pulse totems this league, I'll go ahead and get at least a basic update done for the guide so folks have some kind of resource to reference at league start.

I suspect the build overall is probably slightly buffed compared to last patch. Cannot be Frozen from Brine King, curse mitigation buffs making it easier to get into Essence Worm (and maybe even Coward's Legacy) without something like Viridi's, and maybe a few more efficient points from Ancestral Bond not having any weak minors leading into it. The small nerf to Soul Mantle is not really relevant in context of the life/mitigation change they made to Spell Totem.

We'll see if the full passive tree reveal shows anything more interesting, but overall I don't think it'll actually be a big shakeup for this build compared to last patch.


Thank you Wallach! Every league I think about starting other meta builds and always say no and come back to this thread like a warm blanket. I cant wait until the POB is updated.

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