[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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cybertier wrote:
A 2R2G2B Skin with +1 gems corruption should be far superior to a 3R2G1B without one, right?

In that regard: Why aren't we using Deathmark over Maim all the time? According to PoB Deathmark isn't that much worse when the enemy isn't marked but >10% better once you mark something?


1) Maim is MUCH cheaper on mana reservation cost and MUCH easier to fit in hatred + skitter bot. Play around with POB and you will see.

2) Deathmark you kind of have to . . . press one more button all the times which can be annoying for a lazy build. Although with boss fights I suppose it doesn't really matter and you can pick up a much cheaper 2R / 2G / 2B.

But yes, corruption +1 is superior no matter what, but it is also MUCH cheaper than corruption +1 with traditional Herald of Agony colors for right reason.
Last edited by hitmantb#6251 on Dec 23, 2019, 8:58:08 PM
Leveling this build right now (SUPER excited), but im around level 40 and boy is it painful killing bosses.

Any recommendations for better leveling alternatives or should I stick it out all the way through?
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Kurnis wrote:
Leveling this build right now (SUPER excited), but im around level 40 and boy is it painful killing bosses.

Any recommendations for better leveling alternatives or should I stick it out all the way through?


You have 6L Herald of Agony and you should be mowing down all bosses.

1) Use poison + lesser poison support for better poison application rate.
2) Get ascendancy as soon as possible
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hitmantb wrote:
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xBadGrandma wrote:
Hey there, curious about the Golden Rule gem. How do you negate the poison damage on yourself?


You can pretty much ignore it even without CI, it is minimal damage since our poison damage is extremely low. Once you have CI it is moot point.



Thanks for the reply <3 Cant wait to get this going tommorow, looks like a reliable build.
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Kurnis wrote:
Leveling this build right now (SUPER excited), but im around level 40 and boy is it painful killing bosses.

Any recommendations for better leveling alternatives or should I stick it out all the way through?


I don't remember any problems deleting bosses even with 4-link HoAg. Do you mean it's painful because of dps or survivability?
Lvl 94 14.1k es almost unkillable. Just wish it cleared faster but otherwise it's great.
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hitmantb wrote:
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Stormzerker wrote:
Hello. I am sitting at 9k Es - Not sure what i need to improve on? can someone tell me?
Would love to up what i need and become better. Currently tried to kill Fire Elder dude Enslaver or something? I got nuked in .5 seconds. lol.


A number of things.

a) Your wand adds cold damage to spells so you are actually reducing your crawler damage by 10%. Until you can get a better wand I would uncheck elemental equilibrium.

b) You should use Enlighten 3 to fit in Flesh & Stone, Clarity is useless until you have watcher's eye.

c) Deathmark is more damage than added critical strikes even if you don't actually death mark stuff, if you death mark bosses it will be the biggest DPS increase for a support gem.

Even if you can not afford Herald of Agony 21 / Empower 4, 20 and 3 combined with death mark and uncheck elemental equilibrium will DOUBLE your shaper damage.



Okay so basically I need to remove wand cold spells somehow ( or get a better one ) I have not much currency.

Second, if I swap out Inc crit Strikes - For Deathmark its a 130% increase and i can't use spells as i have 0 mana. SO i have to get rid of Flesh n stone or Hatred? ( enlighten might solve this, but I don't have that currency. What do i do?
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Anopheless wrote:
I am still struggle to understand how does having Feeding Frenzy + Meat Shield linked to our spectres in the offhand is going to buff our crawler as stated in the guide.

Also what will happen to the spectre AI?


1) Frenzy buff affects all minions

2) Onslaught bonus for guardian

If you run in POB it is about 25% MORE damage for your crawler. Plus taunt. You can use elemental army to get a bit more damage for your crawlee. But taunt is a great safety net, and meat shield makes your spectres stay closer to you instead of run off.

AI is more or less neutral if you combine the two.
Last edited by hitmantb#6251 on Dec 24, 2019, 12:18:13 AM
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Stormzerker wrote:
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hitmantb wrote:
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Stormzerker wrote:
Hello. I am sitting at 9k Es - Not sure what i need to improve on? can someone tell me?
Would love to up what i need and become better. Currently tried to kill Fire Elder dude Enslaver or something? I got nuked in .5 seconds. lol.


A number of things.

a) Your wand adds cold damage to spells so you are actually reducing your crawler damage by 10%. Until you can get a better wand I would uncheck elemental equilibrium.

b) You should use Enlighten 3 to fit in Flesh & Stone, Clarity is useless until you have watcher's eye.

c) Deathmark is more damage than added critical strikes even if you don't actually death mark stuff, if you death mark bosses it will be the biggest DPS increase for a support gem.

Even if you can not afford Herald of Agony 21 / Empower 4, 20 and 3 combined with death mark and uncheck elemental equilibrium will DOUBLE your shaper damage.



Okay so basically I need to remove wand cold spells somehow ( or get a better one ) I have not much currency.

Second, if I swap out Inc crit Strikes - For Deathmark its a 130% increase and i can't use spells as i have 0 mana. SO i have to get rid of Flesh n stone or Hatred? ( enlighten might solve this, but I don't have that currency. What do i do?


Uncheck elemental equilibrium until you get a new wand.

Enlighten level 2 or 3 should be sufficient to get flesh and stone. Remove clarity as it is useless without watcher.

Also pop molten shell and vaal molten shell with increased duration if you have problem with boss fights.
Last edited by hitmantb#6251 on Dec 24, 2019, 12:33:25 AM
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ElJesse wrote:
Lvl 94 14.1k es almost unkillable. Just wish it cleared faster but otherwise it's great.


You will eventually get empower 4 which is 20% MORE damage. Also a better wand, ring etc.

The build scales extremely well with currency, you get an unkillable tank relatively early/cheap, damage comes from upgrades.
Last edited by hitmantb#6251 on Dec 24, 2019, 12:35:41 AM

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