[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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lordaverage42 wrote:
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Mecielle wrote:



On another note: Tested both "Time of Need" and "Bastion of Hope" in the endgame. Imo "Time of Need" is far superior. I barely notice the lost stun immunity, but I do notice the huge recovery from "Time of Need". Has saved my ass in those much more difficult boss fights many times. Maybe before this patch Bastion of Hope was the better choice, but know, after they buffed T15-16 maps and bosses Time of Need truly shines.


Hm I think I have to agree. At least it feels like a much nicer playstyle especially during tough metamorphs where sometimes waiting for recharge (and theres often map mods slowing down recharge etc) can be troublesome, Time of Need enables you to get out of bad situations before they even become bad situations quite often as well as directly saving you if the timing works out. Much less worrying about ignites and bleeds etc that cancel recharge. I'll have to keep playing with it to see if the stuns end up messing with me but definitely a nice ascend choice.


edit: while ele reflect is almost never a concern, if you have enough density such as with the sextant mods for little convert mobs and a juiced up map with ele reflect it is possible to burst yourself down lol cause BL is strong in that scenario even with our low dps


I was kind of nervous about the stuns too. But as our minions don't stop attacking when we are stunned, that usually means one of our Spectres gets a hit in and taunts (Meat Shield Support) the mob away from me. The problem with stuns is not the occasional random stun. It is getting stunlocked. And that hasn't happened yet with the taunt from Spectres. But yea, gotta wait and see, it is only 10 regret orbs to respec after all.
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Mecielle wrote:
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lordaverage42 wrote:
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Mecielle wrote:



On another note: Tested both "Time of Need" and "Bastion of Hope" in the endgame. Imo "Time of Need" is far superior. I barely notice the lost stun immunity, but I do notice the huge recovery from "Time of Need". Has saved my ass in those much more difficult boss fights many times. Maybe before this patch Bastion of Hope was the better choice, but know, after they buffed T15-16 maps and bosses Time of Need truly shines.


Hm I think I have to agree. At least it feels like a much nicer playstyle especially during tough metamorphs where sometimes waiting for recharge (and theres often map mods slowing down recharge etc) can be troublesome, Time of Need enables you to get out of bad situations before they even become bad situations quite often as well as directly saving you if the timing works out. Much less worrying about ignites and bleeds etc that cancel recharge. I'll have to keep playing with it to see if the stuns end up messing with me but definitely a nice ascend choice.


edit: while ele reflect is almost never a concern, if you have enough density such as with the sextant mods for little convert mobs and a juiced up map with ele reflect it is possible to burst yourself down lol cause BL is strong in that scenario even with our low dps


I was kind of nervous about the stuns too. But as our minions don't stop attacking when we are stunned, that usually means one of our Spectres gets a hit in and taunts (Meat Shield Support) the mob away from me. The problem with stuns is not the occasional random stun. It is getting stunlocked. And that hasn't happened yet with the taunt from Spectres. But yea, gotta wait and see, it is only 10 regret orbs to respec after all.


While Time of Need does have great perks I have to say all the microstuns during mapping can be a pain in the ass. Gonna try kiaras determination or something else maybe (tho don't know what else will fit very well) to help a bit.

Edit: Kiara's Determination definitely a solid option for general mapping to stop the annoying stuns if you do run Time of Need (which I recommend especially if you will be doing some bossing). Can't speak for deep delving but just for general gameplay outside of delve. I'd run the Kiara flask for mapping and probably not run it for bossing but I'll check it out more.
Last edited by lordaverage42#2435 on Dec 19, 2019, 12:55:21 AM

I will probably do this too. In the future, when I can afford watcher eyes es on hit, I will just use cyclone again.
no more purchases or recommendations til the trade system is fixed.
Last edited by Marchosiae#3590 on Dec 19, 2019, 1:28:37 AM
Is there a leveling section for the skill tree and gems or did i miss something ?
Which nodes did i take first till leveling ?
Last edited by Kirby1978#6030 on Dec 19, 2019, 3:18:25 AM
Hey, im interested in trying this build out. But atm im sitting on 35 ish ex, is this enough to make it t16 viable? I see that circle of nostalgia and watchers eye with clarity mana as es alone is about 35 ex and empower + enlighten lev 4 is a other 12 ex. Can the build manage t16 with out them? If not il continue to grind, just managed to enchant my ilev 100 elder bone helmet with spectre atk/cast speed. So might try to craft that one up and sell for a tidy lump of currency as well.
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Furywrath wrote:
Hey, im interested in trying this build out. But atm im sitting on 35 ish ex, is this enough to make it t16 viable? I see that circle of nostalgia and watchers eye with clarity mana as es alone is about 35 ex and empower + enlighten lev 4 is a other 12 ex. Can the build manage t16 with out them? If not il continue to grind, just managed to enchant my ilev 100 elder bone helmet with spectre atk/cast speed. So might try to craft that one up and sell for a tidy lump of currency as well.


Even 10ex is more than enough to make it T16 viable... Hell I ran T16s with Awakening Level 4 when I was still on like 5ex gear.

But how exactly is Watchers Eye + CoN 35ex? The Eye is like 16ex. The CoN maybe 4ex?

EDIT: Ok, 7ex if you want both mods, but thats because of the time, was 4-5ex 12 hours ago and will be that cheap again in another 12 hours I think. I sniped mine for cheap for 3ex a day ago.
Last edited by Mecielle#3021 on Dec 19, 2019, 3:19:47 AM
Yea my bad, saw earlier that CoN was at 14 ex+ must have boched my search.
Cool il get at this build to day then, cant wait to try out HoAg never used it. Any levling tips? Or just usual twink gear + HoAg from 16?
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Furywrath wrote:
Yea my bad, saw earlier that CoN was at 14 ex+ must have boched my search.
Cool il get at this build to day then, cant wait to try out HoAg never used it. Any levling tips? Or just usual twink gear + HoAg from 16?


Usual leveling stuff and HoAg from 16, but instead of using Ball Lightning to get Virulence stacks, use a Quill Rain with Rain of Arrows + Lesser Poison. Can even throw in a curse on hit, or use the curse on hit ring. Leveling with Ball Lightning is slow as fuck, I hated the contrast between zooming around in my Seven-leagues and then casting Ball Lightning with a 1 second cast time animation. Also, don't forget "The Golden Rule" jewel, it doubles the amount of Virulence you generate per Rain of Arrow. As another tip, get a "Fortress Covenant" and a "Quickening Covenant" for cheap and socket them top left and right of Scion start. No other passives near those sockets, so you have pure benefit. And they are huge for leveleing.
Last edited by Mecielle#3021 on Dec 19, 2019, 4:01:29 AM
@Mecielle
should i follow the 68point skilltree trough leveling ? or should i skill something else in the leveling process ?

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