[3.21] ShakCentral's Cold DoT Elementalist For Everyone

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ShakCentral wrote:

Editing for the YouTube guide is going well. I'm totally still sane

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ShakCentral wrote:

Editing for the YouTube guide is going well. I'm totally still sane

here... take my energy.

This build served me well during Synthesis, Legion, Metamorph and Delirium. Can't wait to try it out again next league.

I'm surprised no one here is talking about Elementalist as a possible alternative in 3.13. The exposure, huge AOE for clear, BIG chills, AND golems/ailment immunity or aegis reflect immune. It very much competes with Occultist in my eyes, and it probably surpasses it by quite a bit in damage. All the elementalist nodes aside from shaper of flame are viable. Thinking of starting this in SSF. Thoughts?

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SiderBlue wrote:

I'm surprised no one here is talking about Elementalist as a possible alternative in 3.13. The exposure, huge AOE for clear, BIG chills, AND golems/ailment immunity or aegis reflect immune. It very much competes with Occultist in my eyes, and it probably surpasses it by quite a bit in damage. All the elementalist nodes aside from shaper of flame are viable. Thinking of starting this in SSF. Thoughts?

Probably loses out defensively, particularly for ES/LL. Could be a decent option for life-based variants though?

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SiderBlue wrote:

I'm surprised no one here is talking about Elementalist as a possible alternative in 3.13. The exposure, huge AOE for clear, BIG chills, AND golems/ailment immunity or aegis reflect immune. It very much competes with Occultist in my eyes, and it probably surpasses it by quite a bit in damage. All the elementalist nodes aside from shaper of flame are viable. Thinking of starting this in SSF. Thoughts?

I saw the changes on Elementalist and I don't think it will come close to the DPS and defenses you get from Occultist. Make a POB when its updated and test it though I would be interested.


1. Occultist has exposure (Trigger wand)
2. AOE isn't needed for Vortex. The clear is fine without any AOE and Occultists have Profane Bloom.
3. Chill is already in the build with Gem links
4. Ailment and reflect immunity are nice but isn't needed in this build.

Hey!

Just a quick question about this build because I think my league start is gonna this or Frostbolt/Ice Nova. Was just wondering how the bossing is on this build? I've never played it and considering this new expansion and league is gonna have a lot of bosses I wanted to know how this would hold up to that.

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SiderBlue wrote:

I'm surprised no one here is talking about Elementalist as a possible alternative in 3.13. The exposure, huge AOE for clear, BIG chills, AND golems/ailment immunity or aegis reflect immune. It very much competes with Occultist in my eyes, and it probably surpasses it by quite a bit in damage. All the elementalist nodes aside from shaper of flame are viable. Thinking of starting this in SSF. Thoughts?

My guess is this will be another guide. I aggree with you, and will probably try something like that an the end of the league. But the build is totally improved, and this guide is for players new to vortex and so not really "experimental". That's my point of view thou, Shak might lead it there.

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donbrawler wrote:

1. Occultist has exposure (Trigger wand)
2. AOE isn't needed for Vortex. The clear is fine without any AOE and Occultists have Profane Bloom.
3. Chill is already in the build with Gem links
4. Ailment and reflect immunity are nice but isn't needed in this build.

I would play it almost exactly the same way as the Occu one, just life instead of CI. Occu really doesn't seem to offer much in comparison.
1. Elementalist improves on that exposure, stripping another 25% res - i.e 25% more damage
2. Convergence is AOE when you need it and 15% more damage overall on bosses (30% more but only up half the time).
3. Elementalists Shaper of Winter chill will easily cap up to the 40% with bonechill, that's a BIG chill.
4. Ailment immunity and golems is huge defenses and damage.
Also have the option of going shaper of storms for a fat shock with just your triggered lightning skills. I'd guess 15-20% more damage if you take this

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donbrawler wrote:

I want to see all the Maven Orb out comes those could potentially increase DPS by a lot. Just curious anyone know any other way to get the effect Shav's that provides "Chaos Damage does not Bypass Energy Shield"?

A 800 ES Vaal Regalia with + 1 to int gem and Explode mode sounds so good but I don't prefer CI.

Nothing elegant sadly. There is Coruscating Elixir Ruby Flask, Esh's Visage (shield), or a couple more armours. All of those options seem pretty terrible though. It's a pretty rare property and only on uniques as far as I can tell.

I am strongly thinking of playing this build again for the new league since I enjoyed it so much the last league (except the very early phases). Even if the aura stuff has gone a bit I'm sure it will still be great. I found it really excellent against bosses once you get to LL with 10m or so DPS.

Interesting to see some of the ideas being thrown around here so keep it up!