[3.11] Aquarism's Ice Shot [All Content]

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keygy wrote:

im using barrage support and have 0 issues with bosses, its a underrated gem because pob does not calcule the damage that give the support gem.

I concur with Slottom. Barrage support deals less damage, use this formula to calculate damage https://www.desmos.com/calculator/vm3bn1j231

have a 5l, then times number from the graph to your DPS, it does about 30% less to barrage.

the advantage of barrage support with freezing enemies is gone when you do any end game bosses since they cannot be fully slowed.

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Prong007 wrote:

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Aquarism wrote:

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Arganista wrote:

What do you guys think is a good annointment for the build?

You can find a list of recommendations under amulet in gearing section.

As written I'm going with Farsight. Kind of strange if I mouse-over in PoB over both nodes then more damage is shown with Throatseeker, but if I annoint them and import the char then Farsight has more DPS.

for pure dps, I still believe throat seeker gives the most dps. Far sight might be better because you lack some attack speed and accuracy I cannot be sure.

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Slottm wrote:

Here goes

This is an excellent write-up, I really appreciate the effort and time went into composing this.

For me, I feel 5k life is enough, between blind on hit(jewel or pandemonious) capped attack/spell dodge, 60%+ evasion, you rarely get hit, and 5k is enough to tank 1 shaper ball. but for juiced up metamorph you might need more.

Other than that I completely agree with your points here. I am considering expanding the mechanics and/or gearing section to include these tips. I might just quote this in the guide if I'm not struggling with space, very well written.

what is the quickest way to swap gems in and out? do i just have to manually do each one right before i fight a boss or is there a macro?

thanks!

Why would you swap gems in and out? You have two different areas for 5-6 link.

I'll add another thing: Your 6 link for barrage is incredibly important. Once you have the first 6 link, the one for ice shot isn't as important, as it doesn't effect your barrage. Gear upgrades that will effect both barrage and ice shot damage are more important.

I would prioritize a 10% damage increase from an item to barrage and ice shot over 6 linking ice shot - it's probably towards the end of the list.

edit: im actually wondering how useful hypothermia is on barrage, as it can't proc chill on its own (the hits are too weak)maybe it really should be swapped for elemental focus?
nevermind I don't even have enough int for elemental focus.

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Slottm wrote:

im actually wondering how useful hypothermia is on barrage, as it can't proc chill on its own (the hits are too weak)maybe it really should be swapped for elemental focus?
nevermind I don't even have enough int for elemental focus.

Wiki is not up to date, but to minimally chill Shaper, you should need a single hit of 237k cold damage. This should be achievable with a crit multi of 480%.

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Aquarism wrote:

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Slottm wrote:

im actually wondering how useful hypothermia is on barrage, as it can't proc chill on its own (the hits are too weak)maybe it really should be swapped for elemental focus?
nevermind I don't even have enough int for elemental focus.

Wiki is not up to date, but to minimally chill Shaper, you should need a single hit of 237k cold damage. This should be achievable with a crit multi of 480%.

I think my barrage (no flasks) can hit up to 190k unless I'm mathing wrong. (My crit multi is 582)

also wait...for me to hit that high, it has to be chilled first, otherwise im counting hypothermia as active when it really isn't.

Thoughts on Fractal Thoughts helm?

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Slottm wrote:

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Aquarism wrote:

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Slottm wrote:

im actually wondering how useful hypothermia is on barrage, as it can't proc chill on its own (the hits are too weak)maybe it really should be swapped for elemental focus?
nevermind I don't even have enough int for elemental focus.

Wiki is not up to date, but to minimally chill Shaper, you should need a single hit of 237k cold damage. This should be achievable with a crit multi of 480%.

I think my barrage (no flasks) can hit up to 175k unless I'm mathing wrong. (My crit multi is 570)

mine deals about 192k, you are correct, hypothermia is good only when you have really good gear. But hypo is still good for normal map boss and metamorphs. I will try to adjust this, perhaps cold pen.

btw, I mentioned you at the bottom of my guide, hope you don't mind, quoting the entire thing is just too long.

I don't mind, sharing our findings definitely helps a lot. I'm already using cold pen, so now I'm really lost. Maybe for shaper alone, I need a different gem (then again, flasks are active there so I do hit harder), but for uber elder fight, they're both lower... around 48 mil. Maybe this is a non issue, and it's only ineffective on that fight.

Hmm, maybe use ice shot to proc chill, then when hypothermia is up barrage self sustains...or just switch to elemental focus and not have to deal with it, as we can't freeze bosses anyway. The int requirement is very high, meaning I can prob only get it to level 9 or 10. I think hypothermia was much better before every boss had its life increased 400% or so. Probably why ice shot got the 300% modifier on it to chill.

Am I missing out on anything else by not being able to chill shaper/elder/etc? (I wonder if I've been effectively using a 5 link the whole time because of this...)

can you get in-game, think its easier to discuss there