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" AnarionPoE wrote: Spoiler IMPORTANT POST, PLS READ Addressing Brunova, Elorathiel, struggling necromancer and this build in general 1) to Brunova You've done an amazing job, spent a lot of time not only playing and testing this build, but also editing, writing about it, really. However, you havent played it this league, you dont know how difficult (or not) Delirium is, even when you try to decrease the quality of your gear and show how awesome this build still is, the rest of your gear is still almost God-tier. I'm sorry, but as someone said before, it seems like a cheap scam. Because it is. You either state in the description that it is standard build or that you need to HEAVILY invest in it to farm red maps with no problems. It's not for newbies and new players. It is NOT the most powerful build anymore, you CANT (anymore) put your Raised Zombies in the Tabula and go kick some ass. Sorry, but that't the truth. I'm kind of sad seeing inexperienced PoE players getting influenced by your posts how crazy this build is and then getting destroyed in yellow maps and not understand why. Who needs guides? Who asks questions? Who struggles? New or inexperienced players. This build is not for them. And you should state that. 2) to Elorathiel Man, stop flexing. Seriously. A struggling necromancer appears, says he cant do Simulacrum and then out of nowhere you show up and demonstrate that this build is great, you've done 20th wave with no problem, here is proof, bla-bla-bla... How many exalts you invested? 70? 80? 100? Your wands are at least 10ex each. Your chest is how much? 15-20? Two jewels 7-8ex each? Enlighten/Empower lvl4, Zombies/Spectres/AG lvl21, awakened melee physical 8ex, ect, ect, ect. Of course you can do t16 100% delirious! ANY BUILD IN POE can do ANY CONTENT if you invest a lot of currency. In case somebody didnt know. And dont you say to me, you dont need that kind of gear to do all the content...YES YOU DO. May be not to that extend, but you MUST invest heavily in the build to work as it supposed to. 5% dps here, 4% there, another 3% there and it all adds up to 100% more dps, 100% more zombie HP. Yes, it actually does. I played this build from the start, invested at least 40ex for it to play more or less comfortably, so I know what I'm talking about. 3) to struggling and new necromancers This build is not cheap at all. I would even say it is very expensive. Not mirror-tier, but still. If you think you can pick up a 5link or a Tabula, invest 1-2-3 ex (or even 5) and go farm red maps, sorry, I have bad news for you. Budget setup doesnt work anymore. Dont start with it if dont have AT LEAST 20ex. If you're patient, ready to farm white/yellow maps to build up tens of exalts and progress it further and further after tens of hours of playing, yes, of course you can do it. But that's the only way. Most important points about getting this build where is HAS to be: 1) Many people said it and I repeat - 1000 strength. Dont bother even mapping without them. It is very easily achieved with Efficient training jewel and gear with "to strength" 2) 22 lvl zombies (20 from gem, 2 from ascendancy) are SHITE. You need to have at least 27-28. 30 is optimal. Either through +1/+1 wands or crafted two-handed. This is when you'll feel a HUGE difference in both - suitability of your zombies and dps. Yes, I've done t16 map with lvl 25 Zombies, but I cant say I was comfortable playing like this. 3) Forget about Tabula or a 5link if you're progressing to high tier yellow or even red maps. You need something better. 4) Dressing up you Animate Guarding with appropriate chest - Nearby enemies are blinded and 10% of maximum life is added as energy shield (plus, other end-game set up of course). Together with Meat Shield (so it stays close to you) should do the trick. On Sirus you can swap for Minion Life just in case. It is not just a quality of life upgrade. This is a must-have if you're planning to farm delirious high-tier maps.	Posted by mangalower on Apr 4, 2020, 2:30:31 PM Quote this Post
" mangalower wrote: Oh look, a necro that couldn't handle not being able to do all content naked so he went cookie cutter CoC Cospris with a HH and dropped necro at 92. Nice job on your cookie cutter build. Why are you posting in a necro build guide thread? Especially one that you abandoned? If you don't like the build and guide, why are you still here? If you have a problem with a build or guide, simply make your own. Oh wait, that would first require you to have an independent thought. Do you have some valuable contribution to make here?	Posted by Elorathiel on Apr 4, 2020, 2:50:01 PM Quote this Post
There are so many spectres, let's wrap those best support spectres up: 1) Carnage Chieftain (A7 Ashen Fields) - grants frenzy stacks 2) Host Chieftain (A7 Ashen Fields) - grants power stacks 3) Reanimator (A1 Lunaris Temple 1) - casts Enfeeble 4) Ruins Hellion (A8 The Grain Gate) - 15% increased dmg + taunt -30% dmg 5) Undying Evangelist (A8 Grand Promenade) - casts Proximity shield 6) Merveil's Retainer (Map Mod-Sea Witches) - casts Vulnerability 7) Baranite Cleric (? influenced map) - 20% of phys as extra lightn, 10% chance shock) 8) Arena Master 9) They of Tul (Thul's Domain) - 15% reduced dmg taken, 20% dodge 10) Xoph's Favoured (?) - ?% of phys as extra fire 11) Scorpion Sentinal (100% blind attack) 12) Sin Master (Assassin's Mark, wrong build I know) Please help to add missing information (only if you are 100% sure pls) Watch out for the spectre script by scrolling down on POEDB. My favourites are: 1, 2(although he grants the next buff just before stacks are gone), 3 for sure and maybe They of Tul and Arena Master -or- Baranite Cleric/Xophs Favoured. PS: Somebody with nr.10 please add me ingame, would love to test them! Cheers! =) Last edited by Dan_Rey on Apr 4, 2020, 10:52:59 PM	Posted by Dan_Rey on Apr 4, 2020, 2:59:44 PM Quote this Post
Hi, Thank you for your advices and builds, they are great! I copied the build "Dual wand, dual offerings". I bought all the items in your example (combined with Tanky build - Geofri, Astramentis), all the gems/skills, corrupted, excepted the Awakened. The char is strong, my defense is great, the mobs are dying easily. Here is my build: https://pastebin.com/1erzSkxa Could you, please, help me with 2 questions: 1. Why my DPS is only 78.000 for Zombie (in Path of Building)? 2. How can I equip all 4 Auras (Dread Banner, Flash and Stone, Pride and Purity of Elements)? The sum for mana reserved is 9 + 25 + 40 + 28 = 102% (with the reductions)? Thank you, again!	Posted by Horace123 on Apr 4, 2020, 3:06:02 PM Quote this Post
I've been trying to follow the tanky guide, and I had a couple questions if anyone has the time: Why are we using vaal discipline if I can't run discipline? The PoB link has it turned off. Is the vaal part of it that good? I've just swapped it out with clarity for now, hoping I can buy a good watcher's eye jewel soon to work with it I guess. Is the Essence Glutton ascendancy passive actually good for this build? I'm using mistress of sacrifice but I don't NEED it for the resists. I considered bone barrier as well. I'm going to level my AG gem to 20 and then use the budget set up from this thread. I'm not too worried about losing 20 chaos, but I'm not sure how tanky it'll be. Any thoughts/way to check this on PoB maybe? I have some work to do with my jewels, rings, and I guess optimizing flasks, but what should I really be working on otherwise? Just focusing on better gems? I just feel like I'm still a bit squishy and not doing enough damage. Thanks. https://pastebin.com/c28aKjLP	Posted by binjammin on Apr 4, 2020, 3:10:16 PM Quote this Post
" Elorathiel wrote: Spoiler " mangalower wrote: Oh look, a necro that couldn't handle not being able to do all content naked so he went cookie cutter CoC Cospris with a HH and dropped necro at 92. Nice job on your cookie cutter build. Why are you posting in a necro build guide thread? Especially one that you abandoned? If you don't like the build and guide, why are you still here? If you have a problem with a build or guide, simply make your own. Oh wait, that would first require you to have an independent thought. Do you have some valuable contribution to make here? My post in this topic from Mar 25(maybe it's hard to read, sorry )	Posted by mangalower on Apr 4, 2020, 3:16:34 PM Quote this Post
" mangalower wrote: " Elorathiel wrote: Spoiler " mangalower wrote: Oh look, a necro that couldn't handle not being able to do all content naked so he went cookie cutter CoC Cospris with a HH and dropped necro at 92. Nice job on your cookie cutter build. Why are you posting in a necro build guide thread? Especially one that you abandoned? If you don't like the build and guide, why are you still here? If you have a problem with a build or guide, simply make your own. Oh wait, that would first require you to have an independent thought. Do you have some valuable contribution to make here? My post in this topic from Mar 25(maybe it's hard to read, sorry ) If you have hard time with delirium/uber elder/sirius 8 even if you have hh (you have plenty of currency) means that you dont really understand the build or dont want to spend much currency into it. With my build or loratiel you can easily farm all content deathless. We have very pricy builds but again, to me its seems you have plenty of currency	Posted by Akisailent on Apr 4, 2020, 3:20:42 PM Quote this Post
what did I miss here lol I had the proof of concept build @ anarion, lvl 88 5l femur, 5l geofri and no cluster was t12 viable easily even with mirror, I need to see if I saved it :( Zombies are fine! bruno needed to hear me on the budget side of stuff ages ago though... To the poor souls struggling: LEAN ON MOLTEN SHELL/VMS + IRON SKIN FLASK AND NO, 1K STRENGTH IS SIMPLY QOL. I will stand by this, its a simple a forbidden taste swap for a utility... learn to trust VMS and dipping in with convocation the getting out, repeat. since everyone leans on POB so much (hey I had to learn with it too) I will cook up a real tree and not a meme "weak" one you might fine in the thread clusters can take your damage from 900k to 2.1 m is where you get into t16 5x delirium stuff edit: oh I do have the meme build, https://pastebin.com/0q5nrNUT have almost all the jewels to play with and make up 30 cold res, I will make a proper league one here in a bit with clusters and get this cheapo build to 400k+ I bet Astramentis is the most expensive part by far. can fix that out if needed but with all those jewels to play with, go play with a brawn. The real meme was getting frozen immune off belt but I don't have that one saved with cheap gear setup Last edited by Nchi on Apr 4, 2020, 3:45:35 PM	Posted by Nchi on Apr 4, 2020, 3:27:16 PM Quote this Post
" mangalower wrote: My post in this topic from Mar 25[/url](maybe it's hard to read, sorry ) Everything you say necromancer isn't capable in your post on Mar 25, we're doing right now. You could sell just your belt and you'd be doing AFK T16 blights. The problem is that you wanted to do all of it cheap and that was never going to happen post nerf and the nerf was warranted. All builds have to invest currency to do the hard content. It's as it should be now. The only change I would like them to fix is changing Feeding Frency back to it's previous state or removing the gem entirely and just making minions aggressive by default. It feels like only necromancers are forced into using a 5L. Last edited by Elorathiel on Apr 4, 2020, 3:38:51 PM	Posted by Elorathiel on Apr 4, 2020, 3:37:35 PM Quote this Post
" Elorathiel wrote: " mangalower wrote: My post in this topic from Mar 25[/url](maybe it's hard to read, sorry ) Everything you say necromancer isn't capable in your post on Mar 25, we're doing right now. You could sell just your belt and you'd be doing AFK T16 blights. The problem is that you wanted to do all of it cheap and that was never going to happen post nerf and the nerf was warranted. All builds have to invest currency to do the hard content. It's as it should be now. The only change I would like them to fix is changing Feeding Frency back to it's previous state or removing the gem entirely and just making minions aggressive by default. It feels like only necromancers are forced into using a 5L. Its either use aggressive or find something to cast with, switching off cyclone to trigger wand is very noticeable since you cant move your minions around anymore. Need to find something to use here, any suggestions? no more cyclone, was thinking of finding +1 curse and using that maybe need to check mana costs Last edited by Nchi on Apr 4, 2020, 3:47:56 PM	Posted by Nchi on Apr 4, 2020, 3:47:44 PM Quote this Post