3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

where can get a master of the arena spectre ?
Arena Master is a mob from Drox influenced packs.

Baranite clerics is from a Baran influenced packs.
Hi all,

Playing my version of dual wand on SSF.

I use following Spectres: 1 Power Ape, 1 Speed Ape and 1 Marveil's Retainer

With all new Spectre options, are above ones still best when using 3, or is there a better setup?
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Calibrated84 wrote:
Gonna blow your guys minds if you try this but I found what I believe to be the BEST combo for specters.. in fact I am confident, you heard it here 1st, that this combo will be as essential as the 2 apes in EVERYONE'S setup. You can either do my preferred 1x frenzy ape, 1x power charge ape, and 2x arena masters OR 2 frenzy 1 power 1 arena master.. 2 masters is AMAZING. they give a buff in a HUGE aoe that gives you mob literally the attack and cast speed AND MOVE SPEED equal or greater than a flesh offering.. with 2 you will get 100% up-time.. This is INSANELY good for our dps and stacks amazing with our own flesh offering OR allows guilt free use of the powerful bone offering defense option.. like I said its AMAZING and WILL be the defacto specter combo for this build. I PROMISE YOU.
Ive tried all other support specters and Arena masters blows them all out of the water BY FAR. MSG me anytime if you have questions.


What maps do you find arena masters in ?

Looks like a Drox, the Warlord is one of the Elderslayers Mob ?

So I take it, you do the Dox fight then when finished you use desecrate and try and find the Arena Master ? Or can you get the Arena Master in the zone before you go into the Drox Boss fight ?
Last edited by Konflict on Apr 4, 2020, 10:53:49 AM
Great guuide.

Wondering if you can spell out the gems needed for just a simple 6l (the chest - geoffri)

4l : x-x-x-x
5l : add x
6l : add x

Thank you!

Last edited by zapumpkin on Apr 4, 2020, 10:44:43 AM
IMPORTANT POST, PLS READ

Addressing Brunova, Elorathiel, struggling necromancer and this build in general


1) to Brunova

You've done an amazing job, spent a lot of time not only playing and testing this build, but also editing, writing about it, really. However, you havent played it this league, you dont know how difficult (or not) Delirium is, even when you try to decrease the quality of your gear and show how awesome this build still is, the rest of your gear is still almost God-tier.

I'm sorry, but as someone said before, it seems like a cheap scam. Because it is. You either state in the description that it is standard build or that you need to HEAVILY invest in it to farm red maps with no problems. It's not for newbies and new players.

It is NOT the most powerful build anymore, you CANT (anymore) put your Raised Zombies in the Tabula and go kick some ass.

Sorry, but that't the truth. I'm kind of sad seeing inexperienced PoE players getting influenced by your posts how crazy this build is and then getting destroyed in yellow maps and not understand why.

Who needs guides? Who asks questions? Who struggles? New or inexperienced players. This build is not for them. And you should state that.

2) to Elorathiel

Man, stop flexing. Seriously. A struggling necromancer appears, says he cant do Simulacrum and then out of nowhere you show up and demonstrate that this build is great, you've done 20th wave with no problem, here is proof, bla-bla-bla...

How many exalts you invested? 70? 80? 100? Your wands are at least 10ex each. Your chest is how much? 15-20? Two jewels 7-8ex each? Enlighten/Empower lvl4, Zombies/Spectres/AG lvl21, awakened melee physical 8ex, ect, ect, ect. Of course you can do t16 100% delirious!

ANY BUILD IN POE can do ANY CONTENT if you invest a lot of currency. In case somebody didnt know.

And dont you say to me, you dont need that kind of gear to do all the content...YES YOU DO. May be not to that extend, but you MUST invest heavily in the build to work as it supposed to. 5% dps here, 4% there, another 3% there and it all adds up to 100% more dps, 100% more zombie HP. Yes, it actually does.

I played this build from the start, invested at least 40ex for it to play more or less comfortably, so I know what I'm talking about.

3) to struggling and new necromancers

This build is not cheap at all. I would even say it is very expensive. Not mirror-tier, but still. If you think you can pick up a 5link or a Tabula, invest 1-2-3 ex (or even 5) and go farm red maps, sorry, I have bad news for you. Budget setup doesnt work anymore. Dont start with it if dont have AT LEAST 20ex.

If you're patient, ready to farm white/yellow maps to build up tens of exalts and progress it further and further after tens of hours of playing, yes, of course you can do it. But that's the only way.

Most important points about getting this build where is HAS to be:
1) Many people said it and I repeat - 1000 strength. Dont bother even mapping without them. It is very easily achieved with Efficient training jewel and gear with "to strength"

2) 22 lvl zombies (20 from gem, 2 from ascendancy) are SHITE. You need to have at least 27-28. 30 is optimal. Either through +1/+1 wands or crafted two-handed. This is when you'll feel a HUGE difference in both - suitability of your zombies and dps. Yes, I've done t16 map with lvl 25 Zombies, but I cant say I was comfortable playing like this.

3) Forget about Tabula or a 5link if you're progressing to high tier yellow or even red maps. You need something better.

4) Dressing up you Animate Guarding with appropriate chest - Nearby enemies are blinded and 10% of maximum life is added as energy shield (plus, other end-game set up of course). Together with Meat Shield (so it stays close to you) should do the trick. On Sirus you can swap for Minion Life just in case. It is not just a quality of life upgrade. This is a must-have if you're planning to farm delirious high-tier maps.
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AnarionPoE wrote:
IMPORTANT POST, PLS READ

Addressing Brunova, Elorathiel, struggling necromancer and this build in general


1) to Brunova

You've done an amazing job, spent a lot of time not only playing and testing this build, but also editing, writing about it, really. However, you havent played it this league, you dont know how difficult (or not) Delirium is, even when you try to decrease the quality of your gear and show how awesome this build still is, the rest of your gear is still almost God-tier.

I'm sorry, but as someone said before, it seems like a cheap scam. Because it is. You either state in the description that it is standard build or that you need to HEAVILY invest in it to farm red maps with no problems. It's not for newbies and new players.

It is NOT the most powerful build anymore, you CANT (anymore) put your Raised Zombies in the Tabula and go kick some ass.

Sorry, but that't the truth. I'm kind of sad seeing inexperienced PoE players getting influenced by your posts how crazy this build is and then getting destroyed in yellow maps and not understand why.

Who needs guides? Who asks questions? Who struggles? New or inexperienced players. This build is not for them. And you should state that.

2) to Elorathiel

Man, stop flexing. Seriously. A struggling necromancer appears, says he cant do Simulacrum and then out of nowhere you show up and demonstrate that this build is great, you've done 20th wave with no problem, here is proof, bla-bla-bla...

How many exalts you invested? 70? 80? 100? Your wands are at least 10ex each. Your chest is how much? 15-20? Two jewels 7-8ex each? Enlighten/Empower lvl4, Zombies/Spectres/AG lvl21, awakened melee physical 8ex, ect, ect, ect. Of course you can do t16 100% delirious!

ANY BUILD IN POE can do ANY CONTENT if you invest a lot of currency. In case somebody didnt know.

And dont you say to me, you dont need that kind of gear to do all the content...YES YOU DO. May be not to that extend, but you MUST invest heavily in the build to work as it supposed to. 5% dps here, 4% there, another 3% there and it all adds up to 100% more dps, 100% more zombie HP. Yes, it actually does.

I played this build from the start, invested at least 40ex for it to play more or less comfortably, so I know what I'm talking about.

3) to struggling and new necromancers

This build is not cheap at all. I would even say it is very expensive. Not mirror-tier, but still. If you think you can pick up a 5link or a Tabula, invest 1-2-3 ex (or even 5) and go farm red maps, sorry, I have bad news for you. Budget setup doesnt work anymore. Dont start with it if dont have AT LEAST 20ex.

If you're patient, ready to farm white/yellow maps to build up tens of exalts and progress it further and further after tens of hours of playing, yes, of course you can do it. But that's the only way.

Most important points about getting this build where is HAS to be:
1) Many people said it and I repeat - 1000 strength. Dont bother even mapping without them. It is very easily achieved with Efficient training jewel and gear with "to strength"

2) 22 lvl zombies (20 from gem, 2 from ascendancy) are SHITE. You need to have at least 27-28. 30 is optimal. Either through +1/+1 wands or crafted two-handed. This is when you'll feel a HUGE difference in both - suitability of your zombies and dps. Yes, I've done t16 map with lvl 25 Zombies, but I cant say I was comfortable playing like this.

3) Forget about Tabula or a 5link if you're progressing to high tier yellow or even red maps. You need something better.

4) Dressing up you Animate Guarding with appropriate chest - Nearby enemies are blinded and 10% of maximum life is added as energy shield (plus, other end-game set up of course). Together with Meat Shield (so it stays close to you) should do the trick. On Sirus you can swap for Minion Life just in case. It is not just a quality of life upgrade. This is a must-have if you're planning to farm delirious high-tier maps.


Sadly these are some true words :(
i started this league with this guide and kept following it despite those many rips i had.
I admit, it is really refreshing and fun now but the progression itself was quite... frustrating
My minions are fine now and i can farm t16 and Simulacrum 20/20.. but my char itself still feels quite squishy and i gonna test some more defense versions.

All in all i wouldnt recommed it myself either for starter or newbies.

Edit: i farmed some currency with another char which had way better survivability and same if not better farm speed
Last edited by Yuzlol on Apr 4, 2020, 11:19:39 AM
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AnarionPoE wrote:
IMPORTANT POST, PLS READ



3) to struggling and new necromancers


Invested 1ex and beating red map. Higher level = more damage and life to minions. Gona buy some jewels for 2ex now and gona enjoy my life.
Idk what you talking about.
Last edited by kovarniypidor on Apr 4, 2020, 11:18:37 AM
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AnarionPoE wrote:
IMPORTANT POST, PLS READ

Addressing Brunova, Elorathiel, struggling necromancer and this build in general


1) to Brunova

You've done an amazing job, spent a lot of time not only playing and testing this build, but also editing, writing about it, really. However, you havent played it this league, you dont know how difficult (or not) Delirium is, even when you try to decrease the quality of your gear and show how awesome this build still is, the rest of your gear is still almost God-tier.

I'm sorry, but as someone said before, it seems like a cheap scam. Because it is. You either state in the description that it is standard build or that you need to HEAVILY invest in it to farm red maps with no problems. It's not for newbies and new players.

It is NOT the most powerful build anymore, you CANT (anymore) put your Raised Zombies in the Tabula and go kick some ass.

Sorry, but that't the truth. I'm kind of sad seeing inexperienced PoE players getting influenced by your posts how crazy this build is and then getting destroyed in yellow maps and not understand why.

Who needs guides? Who asks questions? Who struggles? New or inexperienced players. This build is not for them. And you should state that.

2) to Elorathiel

Man, stop flexing. Seriously. A struggling necromancer appears, says he cant do Simulacrum and then out of nowhere you show up and demonstrate that this build is great, you've done 20th wave with no problem, here is proof, bla-bla-bla...

How many exalts you invested? 70? 80? 100? Your wands are at least 10ex each. Your chest is how much? 15-20? Two jewels 7-8ex each? Enlighten/Empower lvl4, Zombies/Spectres/AG lvl21, awakened melee physical 8ex, ect, ect, ect. Of course you can do t16 100% delirious!

ANY BUILD IN POE can do ANY CONTENT if you invest a lot of currency. In case somebody didnt know.

And dont you say to me, you dont need that kind of gear to do all the content...YES YOU DO. May be not to that extend, but you MUST invest heavily in the build to work as it supposed to. 5% dps here, 4% there, another 3% there and it all adds up to 100% more dps, 100% more zombie HP. Yes, it actually does.

I played this build from the start, invested at least 40ex for it to play more or less comfortably, so I know what I'm talking about.

3) to struggling and new necromancers

This build is not cheap at all. I would even say it is very expensive. Not mirror-tier, but still. If you think you can pick up a 5link or a Tabula, invest 1-2-3 ex (or even 5) and go farm red maps, sorry, I have bad news for you. Budget setup doesnt work anymore. Dont start with it if dont have AT LEAST 20ex.

If you're patient, ready to farm white/yellow maps to build up tens of exalts and progress it further and further after tens of hours of playing, yes, of course you can do it. But that's the only way.

Most important points about getting this build where is HAS to be:
1) Many people said it and I repeat - 1000 strength. Dont bother even mapping without them. It is very easily achieved with Efficient training jewel and gear with "to strength"

2) 22 lvl zombies (20 from gem, 2 from ascendancy) are SHITE. You need to have at least 27-28. 30 is optimal. Either through +1/+1 wands or crafted two-handed. This is when you'll feel a HUGE difference in both - suitability of your zombies and dps. Yes, I've done t16 map with lvl 25 Zombies, but I cant say I was comfortable playing like this.

3) Forget about Tabula or a 5link if you're progressing to high tier yellow or even red maps. You need something better.

4) Dressing up you Animate Guarding with appropriate chest - Nearby enemies are blinded and 10% of maximum life is added as energy shield (plus, other end-game set up of course). Together with Meat Shield (so it stays close to you) should do the trick. On Sirus you can swap for Minion Life just in case. It is not just a quality of life upgrade. This is a must-have if you're planning to farm delirious high-tier maps.


Agreed.

My wife has been running this build and every bit of currency we have has been going into her character to make it feel playable. We've asked for help four times in this post and it has all fallen on deaf ears.

This build is insanely expensive and it does not feel like the currency invested is worth it at all.

Right now we are trying a variation of @Dan_Rey build to see if we can make that work.
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AnarionPoE wrote:
IMPORTANT POST, PLS READ

Addressing Brunova, Elorathiel, struggling necromancer and this build in general


1) to Brunova

You've done an amazing job, spent a lot of time not only playing and testing this build, but also editing, writing about it, really. However, you havent played it this league, you dont know how difficult (or not) Delirium is, even when you try to decrease the quality of your gear and show how awesome this build still is, the rest of your gear is still almost God-tier.

I'm sorry, but as someone said before, it seems like a cheap scam. Because it is. You either state in the description that it is standard build or that you need to HEAVILY invest in it to farm red maps with no problems. It's not for newbies and new players.

It is NOT the most powerful build anymore, you CANT (anymore) put your Raised Zombies in the Tabula and go kick some ass.

Sorry, but that't the truth. I'm kind of sad seeing inexperienced PoE players getting influenced by your posts how crazy this build is and then getting destroyed in yellow maps and not understand why.

Who needs guides? Who asks questions? Who struggles? New or inexperienced players. This build is not for them. And you should state that.

2) to Elorathiel

Man, stop flexing. Seriously. A struggling necromancer appears, says he cant do Simulacrum and then out of nowhere you show up and demonstrate that this build is great, you've done 20th wave with no problem, here is proof, bla-bla-bla...

How many exalts you invested? 70? 80? 100? Your wands are at least 10ex each. Your chest is how much? 15-20? Two jewels 7-8ex each? Enlighten/Empower lvl4, Zombies/Spectres/AG lvl21, awakened melee physical 8ex, ect, ect, ect. Of course you can do t16 100% delirious!

ANY BUILD IN POE can do ANY CONTENT if you invest a lot of currency. In case somebody didnt know.

And dont you say to me, you dont need that kind of gear to do all the content...YES YOU DO. May be not to that extend, but you MUST invest heavily in the build to work as it supposed to. 5% dps here, 4% there, another 3% there and it all adds up to 100% more dps, 100% more zombie HP. Yes, it actually does.

I played this build from the start, invested at least 40ex for it to play more or less comfortably, so I know what I'm talking about.

3) to struggling and new necromancers

This build is not cheap at all. I would even say it is very expensive. Not mirror-tier, but still. If you think you can pick up a 5link or a Tabula, invest 1-2-3 ex (or even 5) and go farm red maps, sorry, I have bad news for you. Budget setup doesnt work anymore. Dont start with it if dont have AT LEAST 20ex.

If you're patient, ready to farm white/yellow maps to build up tens of exalts and progress it further and further after tens of hours of playing, yes, of course you can do it. But that's the only way.

Most important points about getting this build where is HAS to be:
1) Many people said it and I repeat - 1000 strength. Dont bother even mapping without them. It is very easily achieved with Efficient training jewel and gear with "to strength"

2) 22 lvl zombies (20 from gem, 2 from ascendancy) are SHITE. You need to have at least 27-28. 30 is optimal. Either through +1/+1 wands or crafted two-handed. This is when you'll feel a HUGE difference in both - suitability of your zombies and dps. Yes, I've done t16 map with lvl 25 Zombies, but I cant say I was comfortable playing like this.

3) Forget about Tabula or a 5link if you're progressing to high tier yellow or even red maps. You need something better.

4) Dressing up you Animate Guarding with appropriate chest - Nearby enemies are blinded and 10% of maximum life is added as energy shield (plus, other end-game set up of course). Together with Meat Shield (so it stays close to you) should do the trick. On Sirus you can swap for Minion Life just in case. It is not just a quality of life upgrade. This is a must-have if you're planning to farm delirious high-tier maps.



This is the absolute truth! This is my first full league (I played for less than a week 4 years ago) so I followed this guide to build my character. Big mistake. While the guide did help give me direction in the game, it has fallen short if you're planning on playing the delirium league. The original poster is on the standard league (and should mention so). This build is a good starter but it won't take you far into the end-game at all.

As the other posters have mentioned, the build is cost prohibitive. I was lucky enough to obtain most of the "end-game" gear myself as I am just missing a 6L weapon now because the cost is out of my reach. Unfortunately, this is my first time going through the thread looking for help because I am having trouble getting through the league. My zombies and I melt at T11~. Not sure how I will be able to progress into harder maps.

This build is good for standard league, but I recommend looking at delirium focused guides if you're planning on playing there.

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