3.14 KING OF ALL SUMMONERS. Zombies & Skeletons & Spectres on STEROIDS! | League-Start to End-Game

If i want to use minion speed support, which gem should i replace in my budget weapon? fortity or minion damage?

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Carl1428 wrote:
any1 who is willing to give a helping hand, kind of at a loss right now, are you supposed not to have any life regen? kindly pm if ur willing to gave a noob a hand :)


Zombies leech % of dmg to ur life thanks to the Baron we use, if you are using geofri's then all the regen is applied to ES instead of ur life, if u combine this with Essence gluton and a Bottled faith flask the regen is getting pretty legit.
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Zeratul_PL wrote:
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Headroller wrote:
Having zero issues with Delirium content what so ever. Juiced t16s Simulacrum 20/20.

12 Zombies 1.1ish Million DPS per zombie.

6800+ Life
3900+ ES

Honestly nothing even remotely close to super duper expensive on my character, but obviously I have currency invested. I think Zombies are a perfectly viable skill for Delirium....


Could you explain, how you got those values?
I've just checked your necro in PoB - i see around 202 dps per zombie, 11 zopmbies, 5606 life and 2681 es. Definitly different from what you told - how is it possible?

With your calculation, could you take a look on my necro, how much dps per zombie i have with your calculations?

Do you have Fork PoB? Cuz it showed correct numbers for me.


Dunno how to setup zombie dps, shows 100k for you in my fork pob and 120k for mine with less life, feels weak and slow though in maps above t10 though, even added spectres ring today. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?^^
I play on Standard, so I have the legacy item versions of the tanky Setup and use the new gem/ascendency setup. Is it better to get a lethal pride to go for a lot more Strength or use the elegant hubris with like 160 Minion Damage and 80% Life, which costs some more skill points?

Dont know which way I should go...



18 March 2020: Farming T16s on a BUDGET! https://youtu.be/8g_DGSyN-o8

Hey guys, any idea why the spectres Ring uses faster Proj instead of stuff like spell echo or minion damage? dps feels low atm (without any of those, got the last link open still).
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juckt_mich_0 wrote:
I play on Standard, so I have the legacy item versions of the tanky Setup and use the new gem/ascendency setup. Is it better to get a lethal pride to go for a lot more Strength or use the elegant hubris with like 160 Minion Damage and 80% Life, which costs some more skill points?

Dont know which way I should go...


If you want to be more tanky, use a Lethal Pride.

If you want more DPS, use an Elegant Hubris.

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If you want to be more tanky, use a Lethal Pride.

If you want more DPS, use an Elegant Hubris.



Yeah but I dont know, the legacy gear gives so much es with 1500-1800 Strength. BUT the elegant hubris is so much more damage.
Currently at 1300 Str, so going to 1800 Str would add 250 Str to my minions wich is like 50% incr. Damage and 2 more Zombies right?
The Elegant Hubris alone gives 160% and more...



So the question: Are the benefits of going for 500 more Str with legacy gear better than a 160% or 240% Minion Damage Hubris?
Last edited by juckt_mich_0 on Mar 30, 2020, 10:21:40 PM
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juckt_mich_0 wrote:
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If you want to be more tanky, use a Lethal Pride.

If you want more DPS, use an Elegant Hubris.



Yeah but I dont know, the legacy gear gives so much es with 1500-1800 Strength. BUT the elegant hubris is so much more damage.
Currently at 1300 Str, so going to 1800 Str would add 250 Str to my minions wich is like 50% incr. Damage and 2 more Zombies right?
The Elegant Hubris alone gives 160% and more...



So the question: Are the benefits of going for 500 more Str with legacy gear better than a 160% or 240% Minion Damage Hubris?


Well, the Lethal Pride is the more "rounded" and balanced option, because you get the defence and some extra offence with more zombies. Whereas the elegant hubris is pure offence unless you pick up another node that's useful.

Depends again on what kind of gameplay you want to experience. The hubris is perfect for speed farming and demolishing things quickly.

The lethal pride is great if you really hate dying and just want to tank everything in the game or if you want to keep levelling up.
Why do we use faster Projectiles over Minion Damage for 5L Spectres?
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Watipah wrote:
Why do we use faster Projectiles over Minion Damage for 5L Spectres?


They look cooler.

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