[3.6+3.7] Hasunics HoWA Moltenstrike CI Jugg | Uber Elder Farmer

Hi there,

i have a lv90 jugg without a build (113 passive skill points available killing all bandits). May I get a lv90 version of the passive tree and go from there? Thanks!

Edit: Found a good video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk3iCZ9p1lE

I need to either buy or craft a helm. Not sure how fossil crafting works though do I need all the right craft recipes in my bench to fossil craft?

Not sure if I should just purchase premade one or how much I could save if I tried to craft my own?

Why ilvl 85 instead of 87 for the crafting a helm?

How does this compare to regular Kaoms, Grelwood etc Jugg MS build? In terms of clear, single target etc

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PHOENNlX wrote:

How does this compare to regular Kaoms, Grelwood etc Jugg MS build? In terms of clear, single target etc

Ok so im still sort of new to the game and this is my first CI char, but i have played a Grelwood jugg this league and just rolled my CI howa jugg.

My Grelwood jugg lvl 92 has about 6.5k life and roughly 145000 dps per ball for clearing maps. But remember that is lvl 92 and has xophs blood (3ex) and got Lgoh rings (3ex) and grelwood i bought for 1.3ex as well.

My CI jugg i wanted to see if i could do on a budget so i could use as leaguestarter and then buy items as i earnt currency. Only specced into CI last night. Currently lvl 72 has about 6k ES and sitting at around 135000 dps per ball. All i spent so far was 1ex for dying sun and 2.5ex for 6 link chest, the rest of the gear i reckon was like 75c all up, maybe less.

Gameplay wise (clear, single target, defense etc) both builds are strong and play very similar and i feel "safe" all the time with both builds and the speed seems the same with dying sun helping smooth that out. However i would say im super excited about the CI build, so much more potential for damage and higher ES than the grelwood. I mean i have shit gear and have around the same life pool my well geared grelwood has and i am still 20 lvls behind that char and my gems are 3 lvls lower etc so it will be far superior in the end.

The only thing i will say about the CI jugg is try to keep it a secret ;) If you were like me i always considered them EXPENSIVE but even a shit geared CI on budget is way stronger than high cost grelwood jugg

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johnce6 wrote:

Why ilvl 85 instead of 87 for the crafting a helm?

Good question :)

It does not matter to much, but iLvl 86 intelligence helmet adds +3 minion minion level, so by not having ilvl 86 you take this roll out of the chance-pool at prefixs (1.85%)

By having iLvl 85 over Ilvl 84 you add tier 1 intelligence roll to suffixs, thus add 1.5% chance for a better helmet :)

I hope this answered your question.

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PHOENNlX wrote:

How does this compare to regular Kaoms, Grelwood etc Jugg MS build? In terms of clear, single target etc

The build is cheaper to get going and have an endless amount of minmaxing compared to grelwood imo.

much more defence coz of CI and better life(es) pool

+ we dont need avatar of fire/xoph's blood/life leech watcher's eye for this build to work


i have my old dual grelwood + kaom heart jugg on standart, i killed uber elder with him last league, but lol, he has only 25k tooltip dps, when this char with HoWA has 100k ;D

there is no choice imho, i will start with this build next league for sure

i was thinking about using Purity of Ice for +5% max cold res for even more defence in delve and uber elder, but trade is almost dead now, cant get resists balanced ;D

Well, level 81 now decent gear no real belt jewelry is mediocre and no good jewels. Obliterated Uber Izaro last night. 7.4k es scares me though. Going to be rough getting it higher as my es pieces are already pretty damn nice. Never had an easier time going through the traps tho. This build just shakes off traps. Really hope I can get es up so I can attempt t14+ maps bosses. Too low now will get one shot for sure imo. Core was an abysmal failure. Eiether died to his aoe or his tentacle lash. Was way easier on my winter orb at lvl 70. I think it is just growing pains though.

I have the currency to upgrade the belt but I just don't see how it will be possible right now to get my dex below my strength...60+ points over.