[3.6] The Blizz Sorc - Icestorm/Winter Orb CI Occultist - Viable For Everything

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Xirgu wrote:

why not damage on full life instead of contr destr?

Because we use spells, not attacks.

Question to all - your opinion on this build before obtaining corrupted items? Because I see a lot of posts about "this build is awesome" but mostly they include that and my expirience with scion cold version of this build says otherwise (okayish surviability but 0 clear and not so good single target). And I doubt that occultist have better damage than scion for this.


Also seems either insane leveling gloves or occultist nerfs inc.

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pda898 wrote:

Question to all - your opinion on this build before obtaining corrupted items? Because I see a lot of posts about "this build is awesome" but mostly they include that and my expirience with scion cold version of this build says otherwise (okayish surviability but 0 clear and not so good single target). And I doubt that occultist have better damage than scion for this.


Also seems either insane leveling gloves or occultist nerfs inc.

Self cast curses. lol

Sure sound interesting, atleast make self cast curses not absolutely terrible, cause you can easily apply 5 curses with 1 cast. But "insane"? i don't know, man, it's way too underpowered to be called that way.

By the way, looks like now it's finaly time that icestorm receive benefits from the Hatred aura.
So now as damage setup it will be quite good to get watcher's eye with "cold penetration while affected by hatred".

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Kelvynn wrote:

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Xirgu wrote:

why not damage on full life instead of contr destr?

Because we use spells, not attacks.

yup. brain fart there.. trying to find a replacement for GMP as I dont think it applies to ice storm. coloring the ice storm staff with no reds can get very expensive .
hoping the new storm burst skill may be good for whispering ice..
Also trying to see if this is viable as league starter.. staff is cheap but getting enough ES looks expensive.

[quote="pda898"]Question to all - your opinion on this build before obtaining corrupted items? Because I see a lot of posts about "this build is awesome" but mostly they include that and my expirience with scion cold version of this build says otherwise (okayish surviability but 0 clear and not so good single target). And I doubt that occultist have better damage than scion for this. [quote][/quote]
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I don't have any corrupted items with additional intelligence and I do pretty well. The only stuff I havent tried to facetank yet is Uber Atziri, uber elder, and shaper. I hate the death penalty so I try to only do bosses with 98% success rates. Red Elder is super easy. 4 syndicate captains at once is sleepwalk. My es is 11.4k, intelligence is 2078, so i have plenty of room for improvement still.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Hamrfall/characters

Toon: DJHamrfall lvl 97

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Med1umentor wrote:

But "insane"? i don't know, man, it's way too underpowered to be called that way.

89 (prob up to 100) ES gloves with leech at lvl 36.

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Hamrfall wrote:

I don't have any corrupted items with additional intelligence and I do pretty well. The only stuff I havent tried to facetank yet is Uber Atziri, uber elder, and shaper. I hate the death penalty so I try to only do bosses with 98% success rates. Red Elder is super easy. 4 syndicate captains at once is sleepwalk. My es is 11.4k, intelligence is 2078, so i have plenty of room for improvement still.

Thanks. Probably underestimated how important is shaper body armor mod for this build in endgame.

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pda898 wrote:

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Med1umentor wrote:

But "insane"? i don't know, man, it's way too underpowered to be called that way.

89 (prob up to 100) ES gloves with leech at lvl 36.

Yes. I still hold my opinion.
Lvl 36 not really that small, at this point if you are talking about that build specifically, then you want int on your gloves, and preferably resists.

ES at 36 lvl is negligible. Most of the times it's just ineficient to use ES over the life at that point, and if you actually doing it, it's probably because you have ascendancy like occultist for flat ES, and that means that additional ES from equipment have much less meaning anyway.
Indeed, it's really good ES for 36 lvl, and there is good reason to use it in early CI build... but "insane"? Nope, way too overstimated.

Leech? Cmon, dude. At early-middle leveling leech is almost useless, because we don't really have damage for it yet. How much curses there are going to be on enemy at that level? You can as well just ignore that that point exist, until your character is full fledged.

Sure, that unique is cool, never argued with that. But it have almost nothing on the "leveling potential", only additional curse is nice, and autocasting several of them at this point is cool (until we have better option to apply it).
And using it in actual endgame is... well, not so bad, but way too far from "insane" too.

What we call insane leveling gear is something akin "tabula rasa", or "goldrim". For obvious reasons.
That thing is not on that level.

Just curious why you don't have Pain Attunement on the tree?

Just curious why you don't have Pain Attunement on the tree?


Pain attunement grants more spell damage when the character is on low life. Our life is 1. And we are always at full life (1) unless we r dead. So pain attunement won't help us.