[3.9] Cyclone Summoner - Heralds of Agony and Purity, Summon Holy Relic - League starter

Sweet, sounds good. Thanks for the info.
What catalysts should be used? Still new to understanding them.
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ve39 wrote:
How in POB do I check total dps on this build?

thanks

I've never ran a Herald of Agony build before but have become quite interested in running one this league so I don't know how exactly it works and hopefully someone could shed some light on this but I think we would calculate it something like this based on the OP's PoB (I think I ticked all the right DPS configs)

Agony Crawler - 778k (Based on Tailspike?) or 452k (based on Default attack)
Holy Relic - 69k x2 = 138k
Heralds of Purity - 75k x4 = 300k (Based on Default attack?)
Total Shaper DPS - 1.26m or 890k (based on Crawlers default attack)

Again I don't really know if that's how the DPS for the minions work and what attack you base it off maybe I'm completely going in the wrong direction with this :( so if anyone could confirm some of these things It would be greatly appreciated.
Last edited by Thronar#4773 on Dec 24, 2019, 1:52:44 PM
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degini wrote:
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troublesome67 wrote:
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streamtOtO wrote:


How to craft it? Whats steps


Buy an item level 75 or lower Elder Gemini Claw. Alteration spam it til you get Life gained for each blinded enemy hit by this weapon. Then you regal it. I just got super lucky with the Attack speed roll. Normally you would just craft attack speed on it afterwards.


Why ilvl 75 or lower? What mods are we trying to avoid?


This didn't get answered. I was wondering about this as well, I'll guess it was just to reduce the possible choices to make it more likely to get life gain on hitting a blind enemy mod? Also, I assume the craft recipe begins with a scour, if starting with a rare elder claw. Thank you.

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I just realised something while in this hangover...

Why are we using Victario's charity if we have Bastion of Hope?
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Siliticx wrote:
I just realised something while in this hangover...

Why are we using Victario's charity if we have Bastion of Hope?


You mean harmony of purpose? It only affects party members, which your minions are not.

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Thronar wrote:
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ve39 wrote:
How in POB do I check total dps on this build?

thanks

I've never ran a Herald of Agony build before but have become quite interested in running one this league so I don't know how exactly it works and hopefully someone could shed some light on this but I think we would calculate it something like this based on the OP's PoB (I think I ticked all the right DPS configs)

Agony Crawler - 778k (Based on Tailspike?) or 452k (based on Default attack)
Holy Relic - 69k x2 = 138k
Heralds of Purity - 75k x4 = 300k (Based on Default attack?)
Total Shaper DPS - 1.26m or 890k (based on Crawlers default attack)

Again I don't really know if that's how the DPS for the minions work and what attack you base it off maybe I'm completely going in the wrong direction with this :( so if anyone could confirm some of these things It would be greatly appreciated.


I didn't rerun his pob but it looks right from what I remember. You go by tail spike damage on the crawler. Purity I think is mostly default though they charge and slam often. PoB for agony is mostly just 40 virulence stacks and 9 poison, 10 if your vile toxins is level 21. You typically always put 10 even if not using vile toxins for dps comparison purpose with skills. Everything is pretty standard. If you're using victarios you would uncheck minions use power charges if the boss has no minions. If you use the withered setup you can stack wither up to 15.
About wither stacks: with withering touch support on cyclone and 12 attacks per second, you can sustain 6 wither stacks. Withering touch support on HoP can sustain about 4 wither stacks on one target.
I've hit a wall with this build at 92 where i am running woke8 T16s and I can destroy trash but get popped by bosses/metas. How do I strengthen this build past what is listed?

I'm at 6300hp

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So, I've spent almost 10ex in my gear and I'm getting pretty good DPS on HoA.

HoA DPS: https://puu.sh/EToAo/7873efc3f3.png
HoP DPS (multiply *4): https://puu.sh/EToCz/b789d84aa2.png
SHR DPS (multiply *2): https://puu.sh/EToD4/017249b30f.png

Total shaper/guardian DPS: ~3,2kk

My PoB: https://pastebin.com/bLvfXAgR

Here are my current items:



This setup gives me capped chaos resistance together with Pantheon, along with a pretty insane clearspeed and boss damage. Still getting one-shot from time to time though. Some T16 metamorphs are just retardedly strong.



I've bought a +3 minion gem helmet and plan to use it with HoP, which will give me around 300k dps. I don't think it's worth the 4ex I spent on it... what do you guys think? Even then, I'll still have to do some adjustments though. For example, I'll probably have to switch boots since it will be a pain in the ass to get 4B (Summon Holy Relic - Minion Damage - Controlled Destruction - Meat Shield) on my current ones. Maybe I can ditch SHR and go for something else? I don't think it's a good idea, but it's an option. Maybe this is too much hassle for a 300k dps increase and I'll probably end up selling the helm.

I chose to get poacher's mark on hit on my ring so I can get even more life on hit and still get my HoA to obtain frenzy charges consistently.

I also chose to go only one Cold Iron Point so I don't give up the insane life gain on hit on the claw. I probably won't switch to 2 Cold Iron Points because my DPS is already pretty high and I see more value on the life/mana gain on hit.

For Cyclone, I went for withering touch. With HoP, as Kaptn said, we can get 10 stacks. Huge DPS boost. Thanks for the tip! I also went for infused channeling because it makes you incredibly tanky. Fortify got linked with whirling blades instead, as blood magic doesn't do anything for me.

Lvl 1 CWDT - Immortal Call - Spirit offering. This procs Spirit Offering very consistently, which translats to a pretty nice damage boost and defenses for my minions. It also helps keeping Holy Relics alive, which is very important for clearspeed. They will still die from time to time when damage is too heavy (aka T16 metamorphs), but they definitely can take a lot more hits with spirit offering procs. Will experiment leveling CWDT a little and see how it goes.

Things I still need to do:

- Get a #% attack speed claw/life gain on each blinded enemy hit so I can craft #% minion damage on the mod table
- Find a way to shock enemies (I have a jewel with 4% shock chance but idk if it works this way)
- Get helmet enchant
- Switch to the +3 helmet, which I've already bought
- Level up so I can get one more jewel and a higher life pool
- Get corrupted +1 socketed gems Coming Calamity
- Get level 21 Herald of agony

After these upgrades, I think I will hit a wall, but I'm not sure.

If you guys have something to add to my build, you are very welcome :).

Overall, this is the strongest build I've ever done. I've invested around 10ex (including the 6-link) and feel like I can do every content in the game. Meanwhile, my friends are stuck in T10's with their bow builds hehe.
Last edited by guidulove#4086 on Dec 26, 2019, 11:07:16 AM
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guidulove wrote:
So, I've spent almost 10ex in my gear and I'm getting pretty good DPS on HoA.

HoA DPS: https://puu.sh/EToAo/7873efc3f3.png
HoP DPS (multiply *4): https://puu.sh/EToCz/b789d84aa2.png
SHR DPS (multiply *2): https://puu.sh/EToD4/017249b30f.png

Total shaper/guardian DPS: ~3,2kk

My PoB: https://pastebin.com/bLvfXAgR

Here are my current items:



This setup gives me capped chaos resistance together with Pantheon, along with a pretty insane clearspeed and boss damage. Still getting one-shot from time to time though. Some T16 metamorphs are just retardedly strong.



I've bought a +3 minion gem helmet and plan to use it with HoP, which will give me around 300k dps. I don't think it's worth the 4ex I spent on it... what do you guys think? Even then, I'll still have to do some adjustments though. For example, I'll probably have to switch boots since it will be a pain in the ass to get 4B (Summon Holy Relic - Minion Damage - Controlled Destruction - Meat Shield) on my current ones. Maybe I can ditch SHR and go for something else? I don't think it's a good idea, but it's an option. Maybe this is too much hassle for a 300k dps increase and I'll probably end up selling the helm.

I chose to get poacher's mark on hit on my ring so I can get even more life on hit and still get my HoA to obtain frenzy charges consistently.

I also chose to go only one Cold Iron Point so I don't give up the insane life gain on hit on the claw. I probably won't switch to 2 Cold Iron Points because my DPS is already pretty high and I see more value on the life/mana gain on hit.

For Cyclone, I went for withering touch. With HoP, as Kaptn said, we can get 10 stacks. Huge DPS boost. Thanks for the tip! I also went for infused channeling because it makes you incredibly tanky. Fortify got linked with whirling blades instead, as blood magic doesn't do anything for me.

Lvl 1 CWDT - Immortal Call - Spirit offering. This procs Spirit Offering very consistently, which translats to a pretty nice damage boost and defenses for my minions. It also helps keeping Holy Relics alive, which is very important for clearspeed. They will still die from time to time when damage is too heavy (aka T16 metamorphs), but they definitely can take a lot more hits with spirit offering procs. Will experiment leveling CWDT a little and see how it goes.

Things I still need to do:

- Get a #% attack speed claw/life gain on each blinded enemy hit so I can craft #% minion damage on the mod table
- Find a way to shock enemies (I have a jewel with 4% shock chance but idk if it works this way)
- Get helmet enchant
- Switch to the +3 helmet, which I've already bought
- Level up so I can get one more jewel and a higher life pool
- Get corrupted +1 socketed gems Coming Calamity
- Get level 21 Herald of agony

After these upgrades, I think I will hit a wall, but I'm not sure.

If you guys have something to add to my build, you are very welcome :).

Overall, this is the strongest build I've ever done. I've invested around 10ex (including the 6-link) and feel like I can do every content in the game. Meanwhile, my friends are stuck in T10's with their bow builds hehe.


Thanks, this helped

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