[3.9] Cyclone Summoner - Heralds of Agony and Purity, Summon Holy Relic - League starter

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Heralin wrote:

the guide said that a weapon with "Life gained for each blinded enemy hit by this weapon" is important. but when i check other builds with high level on poe.ninja most of them has just gemini claws with high atk speed and phys dmg but no life for each binded. what is the reason for this?

Cause it's hard to find i think,

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ngtrungkhanh wrote:

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Heralin wrote:

the guide said that a weapon with "Life gained for each blinded enemy hit by this weapon" is important. but when i check other builds with high level on poe.ninja most of them has just gemini claws with high atk speed and phys dmg but no life for each binded. what is the reason for this?

Cause it's hard to find i think,

this is from the guide:

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systemplayerlost wrote:

Weapon: Elder Gemini Claw with "Life gained for each blinded enemy hit by this weapon" and attack speed. Crafted attack speed is totally acceptable here, and the cheapest way to get this weapon may be to alt-craft it yourself if none are available for trade. Please note, being having a Gemini Claw is critical for the mana gained on hit to sustain Cyclone. Don't worry if you cannot get the Elder Gemini Claw straight away, it's only great once you have your 6 link Elder gloves, until then go for a Gemini Claw with T1 attack speed.

and he is right, its easy to craft alt spam it. so it isnt so hard to get a claw like this.

my claw:


is a atk speed claw with phsy dmg better or is my cheap claw better?

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ngtrungkhanh wrote:

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goatcheese61 wrote:

Does

really make the best sense for the endgame build? I know charges are the tits for minions, but we're already getting 10% to all charges on hit with ascendance. and we're already hitting 5+ aps on cyclone. The added 5% chance from the shield seems a little silly no?

Couldn't we crank out a lot more damage and similar defense with an offensive shield or even by dual wielding?

Harmony of purpose just share charge with PARTY MEMBER, not AllIES, so our minion dont have charge from this.

ah gotcha, thanks!

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Heralin wrote:

is a atk speed claw with phsy dmg better or is my cheap claw better?

I think your claw only help in high tier boss, when you need to full your life asap when take a hit. For t14 and lower, i prefer a claw with high attack spd, open pre/su to craft minion damage/cast a socket spell. This also help me find a gloves with better life + some dex

Is crafting %chance to blind on claw enough for using "Life gained for each blinded enemy hit by this weapon"? So that i can find better glove and using 5l cyclone(drop blind). Can also use this on boots with support by fortify too.

I failed at +gems on my 6l, but I did brick it to 6 white sockets.

So ignoring how difficult coloring can be, whats the best 6l setup for bossing on our HoAg?

thanks!

Has anyone tried an alternative to Cyclone? It feels really clunky when fighting uber elder and makes it difficult to dodge mechanics. Maybe Blade Flurry could work?

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goatcheese61 wrote:

I failed at +gems on my 6l, but I did brick it to 6 white sockets.

So ignoring how difficult coloring can be, whats the best 6l setup for bossing on our HoAg?

thanks!

i believe it is HoAg + dmg ful life + minion dmg + vile toxin + vicious projectiles + empower 4 / maim

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kingoflimbs wrote:

as anyone tried an alternative to Cyclone? It feels really clunky when fighting uber elder and makes it difficult to dodge mechanics. Maybe Blade Flurry could work?

Could you defeat UE with cyclone?
Ball lightning + poison + lesser poison + unlease is good to dodge machanics, but we can't gain life on hit =(

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kingoflimbs wrote:

Has anyone tried an alternative to Cyclone? It feels really clunky when fighting uber elder and makes it difficult to dodge mechanics. Maybe Blade Flurry could work?

Advantage of Cyclone is that attacks per second is very high. Attacks per second is very important for this build. It means charging up virulence is very fast. Attacks per second is key for life and mana gained per hit. Attacks per second is also important for Holy Relic triggering a nova spell on hit.

Cyclone itself is not the main source of dps. The dps comes more from Agony Crawler and Holy Relic. The defense also comes primarily from life gained from hits. This all takes good advantage of Cyclone's 50% more attack speed.

edit: Regarding the problem of dodge mechanics issue, what I do in those cases is short mouse clicks with Cyclone skill. By short I mean mouse click right on monster while already right next to monster so the distance traveled is short. That is instead of just holding down the mouse button. This should then make the situation of a required dodge much more responsive because the cyclone should complete very soon. Giving you better control of your character's movement.

WTB a better version of Cyclone. This leagues mechanics are pretty bad for cyclone since you can cyclone into the blue if you clicked too far. I really think cyclone should be channeled and much more responsive by itself.

Build has been a blast but have not pushed it past yellow maps because of time constraints and low atlas completion.

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Has anyone found what's best to try to get as implicits for our rares or is it overall not worth it compared to the shelder bases that are listed?