[3.9] Cyclone Summoner - Heralds of Agony and Purity, Summon Holy Relic - League starter

What's the use of summon phantasms? they don't seem to be doing much damage.

Can anyone help me understand how to find the gems for the build? I have no clue how to find gems on trade site with poison on hit, etc. Can't scroll through thousands of yellow gems trying to match this...doesn't seem clear at all. Thanks!

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OMGJJ wrote:

What's the use of summon phantasms? they don't seem to be doing much damage.

The phantasms help clear and also will distract the enemies some. As it says in the opening post it can be swapped out for boss fights but I've never bothered to do that myself.

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Surgical2x4 wrote:

Can anyone help me understand how to find the gems for the build? I have no clue how to find gems on trade site with poison on hit, etc. Can't scroll through thousands of yellow gems trying to match this...doesn't seem clear at all. Thanks!

I suggest using the PoE Wiki https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Skill_gem

The wiki tells you what in game vendors sell what gems to which character types after which quests are complete.

The wiki is very handy for answering many different questions for newbies as well as more experienced players. Keep it on speed dial.

If you want leveled or quality gems then the poe trade is good. http://poe.trade/ at the top you pick which gem and at the bottom you select the level and quality that you want.

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Turtledove wrote:

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OMGJJ wrote:

What's the use of summon phantasms? they don't seem to be doing much damage.

The phantasms help clear and also will distract the enemies some. As it says in the opening post it can be swapped out for boss fights but I've never bothered to do that myself.

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Surgical2x4 wrote:

Can anyone help me understand how to find the gems for the build? I have no clue how to find gems on trade site with poison on hit, etc. Can't scroll through thousands of yellow gems trying to match this...doesn't seem clear at all. Thanks!

I suggest using the PoE Wiki https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Skill_gem

The wiki tells you what in game vendors sell what gems to which character types after which quests are complete.

The wiki is very handy for answering many different questions for newbies as well as more experienced players. Keep it on speed dial.

If you want leveled or quality gems then the poe trade is good. http://poe.trade/ at the top you pick which gem and at the bottom you select the level and quality that you want.

I think he meant jewels. On the trade site, there's a section for mods. Start typing the name of the mod you're looking for, and it'll narrow down the options to only include those that partially match what you're typed so far.

Here's an example link for jewels with #% poison on hit: http://poe.trade/search/menauhuonasiho

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Turtledove wrote:

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OMGJJ wrote:

What's the use of summon phantasms? they don't seem to be doing much damage.

The phantasms help clear and also will distract the enemies some. As it says in the opening post it can be swapped out for boss fights but I've never bothered to do that myself.

In what way do they help with clear? Not saying you're wrong, I'm just new and trying to work it out. it takes about 3 seconds for multiple to kill a normal white enemy while my other minions go around 1 shotting everything.

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OMGJJ wrote:

In what way do they help with clear? Not saying you're wrong, I'm just new and trying to work it out. it takes about 3 seconds for multiple to kill a normal white enemy while my other minions go around 1 shotting everything.

Most of the damage is coming from agony crawler and holy relics, then the sentinels of purity. So, yes the phantasms are way down the pecking order in importance. They do some blinding and distract enemies. Before you pick up the minion damage buff nodes in the passive skill tree, that's really all they do.

I would say feel free to use Path of Building to find a different support gem for that slot. It's definitely not going to break the build and would probably help dispatching bosses.

edit: the OP says

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6L Herald of Agony-Pierce-Minion Damage-Vicious Projectiles

This is the core 4L after which you have the following options based on preference.
- Summon Phantasm on Kill: great for additional clear power, you can swap this for minion damage for clear/bossing (now triggers vs rare and unique enemies)
- Damage on Full Life: huge damage
- Maim: decent damage and maim
- Empower: only really good if you have level 4 or a +1 socketed gems corruption
- Minion Speed: great for additional clear power, you can swap this for minion damage for clear/bossing
- Vile Toxins: good damage and option to swap for Pierce for bossing/clear

So, pick one of those.

edit2: I remember now why I left summon phantasm in there. If I replace that with a green or red support gem it was going to cost maybe 4000 chromes (4g,1b, 1r) or 3000 chromes (3g, 1b, 2r) to color the Coming Calamity if it only had the one blue socket. At least according to the Vorici Chromatic Calculator.

Is the Defiance node any useful to pick up on the passive skill tree?

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Apatheticy wrote:

Is the Defiance node any useful to pick up on the passive skill tree?

I dont think it worth 2p, 10% life or +1 endurance charge or 1 jew slot is better
Also, how abbout Gluttony leather belt. With this belt we can use other weapon and maybe we can skip resolute technique too.

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ngtrungkhanh wrote:

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Apatheticy wrote:

Is the Defiance node any useful to pick up on the passive skill tree?

I dont think it worth 2p, 10% life or +1 endurance charge or 1 jew slot is better
Also, how abbout Gluttony leather belt. With this belt we can use other weapon and maybe we can skip resolute technique too.

I'd be very interested in other opinions on this, as well as yours? My concern is zeroing out ES and Armour? Wouldn't that be an issue?

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