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What should I change for uber lab runs? I wont play jugg, cuz of low dmg at begining and wont play patfinder cuz expensive.
Help, please.

P.S sry for eng.
Last edited by qww177 on Aug 26, 2019, 7:52:21 AM
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kayella wrote:
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gouca wrote:
Welp, missed that branch whilst respeccing. Also made the characters public. Would you mind to take a look at my necro and point out suggestions for:

* How to and where to bind conductivity to arma brand
* Where to throw the banner (and should I)?

I guess I'll need to drop some other supports?

Sorry to trouble you, just a new player and learning things all the time. This build is absolutely a beast compared to the 74-minion build I used for 1-85 but I feel like single target DPS is holding me from going further in boss fights.

It's the end of the league and I'd like to complete as many challenges as possible. Got friends throwing currency in from all the doors and windows so doesn't matter if you find expensive suggestions :^)


Tree looks good. Gear looks good. More life on your jewellery would be good, but at this stage of the league, it'll be hard to find anything good for sale.

You don't need to throw the banner. It exists in the build to provide an aura buff to activate Commander of Darkness ascendancy, and to reduce nearby enemy accuracy by 21%. Throwing the banner adds nothing to the build.

The current basic build has a stronger emphasis on survivability. But, if you want to go all out on DPS, go to my profile and look at Kayellaee. It has dual curse and triple damage auras and PoB shaper DPS is around 3.5mil per spectre. The gloves and boots are legacy items, but you should be able to get everything else.



Thanks man, greatly appreciated and many thanks for the hard work with these guides.
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gouca wrote:
Hey dude and thanks again for this great guide for a recent player like me. How ever, I don't have any mana left after I use DB + Wrath + TC. What am I doing wrong?



Your boots enchant with lightning damage screwing up your elemental equilibrium.
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kayella wrote:
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FreddyRamsone wrote:
that looks dope as well! so i could basically do the same build, use these spectres when farm-mapping (inc AoE > GMP?) and the slave drivers when i'm progressing?

thanks for taking your time, really!


Yeah inc aoe -> GMP. Both spectres can handle all content, the only difference is what you are focusing on: mapping or bossing. Risen Vaal Advocates are my choice for mapping: fast projectiles + GMP and they can survive reflect maps. Slave Drivers are the better spectre for bossing because of their DPS.

The main downside to RVAs is the difficult in actually getting them. They randomly spawn in Alva incursions, Temple of Azoatl or Delve: Vaal Outpost.

I'm currently preparing a new section for the guild about using different spectres and gear/gem swaps needed, as well as some comments about how they play and where to summon them.



I switched to RVA's with Fast + GMP on my Pledge of Hands. 2G 6B 6L. I feel like slave drivers do faster clearing and damage on maps. Am I missing something? Taking 3-4 hits for rare legions.
May someone tell me what to upgrade next to improve dps?


Last edited by nechrophagy on Aug 26, 2019, 10:09:23 PM
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nechrophagy wrote:
May someone tell me what to upgrade next to improve dps?

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To improved DPS, you'll have to start chipping away at your survivability.

You would want to go dual offensive curse instead of a defence curse and run dual or triple offense auras.

For example:




You could also look for minion damage on jewellery:
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Last edited by kayella on Aug 27, 2019, 10:43:58 AM
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LucidReality wrote:
I switched to RVA's with Fast + GMP on my Pledge of Hands. 2G 6B 6L. I feel like slave drivers do faster clearing and damage on maps. Am I missing something? Taking 3-4 hits for rare legions.


No, you're not missing anything. Projectile spectres don't have the same damage as SDs (nothing does), but they have the advantage of being able to shoot 2-3 screen lengths. GMP + Faster Proj gives these kinds of spectre a large spread, so they will hit more monsters as well.

The main advantage of RVAs is that they can survive elemental reflect maps. So essentially, you can play maps with any mods if you use the Pledge build with RVAs because they don't die from reflect and the Pledge build uses ES as mana, so no regen map is not a problem either.

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kayella wrote:
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LucidReality wrote:
I switched to RVA's with Fast + GMP on my Pledge of Hands. 2G 6B 6L. I feel like slave drivers do faster clearing and damage on maps. Am I missing something? Taking 3-4 hits for rare legions.


No, you're not missing anything. Projectile spectres don't have the same damage as SDs (nothing does), but they have the advantage of being able to shoot 2-3 screen lengths. GMP + Faster Proj gives these kinds of spectre a large spread, so they will hit more monsters as well.

The main advantage of RVAs is that they can survive elemental reflect maps. So essentially, you can play maps with any mods if you use the Pledge build with RVAs because they don't die from reflect and the Pledge build uses ES as mana, so no regen map is not a problem either.



Ah! Okay, that makes more sense. Thank you for clearing that up. It is well worth it after doing some of my maps with refelect.
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kayella wrote:
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nechrophagy wrote:
May someone tell me what to upgrade next to improve dps?

Spoiler



To improved DPS, you'll have to start chipping away at your survivability.

You would want to go dual offensive curse instead of a defence curse and run dual or triple offense auras.

For example:




You could also look for minion damage on jewellery:


Thanks again for this guide and all the help, just defeated uber elder for first time, using the new league starter setup, died before I could talk to zana, but still completed quest :)
I have tried this in Legion now. Respeced a Necro so my passive tree is a bit different at the start, but it works out really good! Maybe even better.


Builds seems awesome, easy and powerful. Will go for this in 3.8 and hoping that not all our required/recommend uniques will get a price hike due increased necro demand.

Only played with a 5L Vis Mortis and DPS is no issue. 6L Vis or rare body goes for 7 ex now. I don't bother to do gem swap for bosses either. SD does fine anyway. I am only at T12-13 though. Looking forward to try PoH variant later as well.


What Spectres would perform the best for the Blight?
SD or L-RVA? PoH or Vis Mortis?

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