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Raotiz wrote:
So i have whispers of doom and I apply assasins mark and frostbite while my ag have ele weakness and the windscream boots for +1 curse, is that enuf or do I need awakened hextouch/additional curse on the ag chest?


Easier to have AG with 3 curse limit.

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Only the last player to curse has their maximum number of curses used.

Player A has a curse limit of two and Player B has a curse limit of one. Every time Player B casts a curse on an enemy after Player A, he replaces both curses because he reduces the limit from two to one.


You curse first. AM and FB. 2 curse limit.

AG curse after with EW. 3 curse limit, so monster keeps 3 curses.

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Jysera wrote:

I've recently taken down A5 sirus (albeit a close battle), and would greatly appreciate it if anyone has tips for gear upgrades with SSF restrictions in mind.


To add - I am working to get a +1 spectre chest and farming niko + delve everyday. Otherwise, I am also aiming to get some cluster jewels but they are proving to be quite difficult for SSF.


I think aim for 1 cluster set and use any large minion jewel. For example: 12 passive large and allocate all passives (that's 100% inc damage actually!).

instead of aura medium, use minion medium with renewal + feasting fiends (actually easy to roll this).

Another option is two large jewels and socket ghastly eye instead of medium+small... then take life nodes from passive tree instead. renewal + feasting helps a lot for minion surivability, so you need to get minion leech somewhere!


For armour extra quality will increase 6L chance:
1. armour shard to 20%
2. bench craft +quality
3. syndicate craft +quality

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Hello fellow summoners. I understand completely that it's no fun to educate a noob but seeing some friendly discussion in this thread I decided to ask for help anyway.

Let me start by saying that I'm new to PoE and this is only my second character, also my first one was a rather tanky Juggernaut (but lacking in clear speed) so maybe my expectations are skewed.

I wanted a build with fast mapping speed to play Heist content so I went with Kay's Spiders and Spectres. During leveling through acts I pretty much facerolled all the content and it was extremely enjoyable to just look at the minimap and run ahead and let my summons do the rest.

However now that I am somewhat high level (85 atm) and have pretty decent gear (40-50ex) I feel really squishy and afraid to run the map at full speed and have to stutter step and wait at every corner for my summons to go ahead and clear the way for me. Otherwise I just get one-shot every now and again if just going yolo (I'm obviously spamming flasks, dying with all buffs active).

Having spent last day trying to figure out what I might be doing wrong and I'm starting to think that maybe I'm not doing it wrong but my expectations were a bit too high.

I would greatly appreciate any feedback, my character is public. Thanks!
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kayella wrote:
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Jysera wrote:

I've recently taken down A5 sirus (albeit a close battle), and would greatly appreciate it if anyone has tips for gear upgrades with SSF restrictions in mind.


To add - I am working to get a +1 spectre chest and farming niko + delve everyday. Otherwise, I am also aiming to get some cluster jewels but they are proving to be quite difficult for SSF.


I think aim for 1 cluster set and use any large minion jewel. For example: 12 passive large and allocate all passives (that's 100% inc damage actually!).

instead of aura medium, use minion medium with renewal + feasting fiends (actually easy to roll this).

Another option is two large jewels and socket ghastly eye instead of medium+small... then take life nodes from passive tree instead. renewal + feasting helps a lot for minion surivability, so you need to get minion leech somewhere!


For armour extra quality will increase 6L chance:
1. armour shard to 20%
2. bench craft +quality
3. syndicate craft +quality



Are we supposed to use a 8 passive or 12 passive large cluster jewel for the 1 cluster setup for pure spectre build? In the guide it says use a 8 passive large cluster jewel.
Fairly new player Just checking out your spiders and spectres build transition after getting to maps and beating kitava with your minion army. In the sample video and that part of the guide, it says to just stand next to monsters and kill them. Is there any specific skill or gem I need to use or does the spider spawn mechanic work just by walking near them?
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avalonmabi wrote:
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kayella wrote:
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Jysera wrote:

I've recently taken down A5 sirus (albeit a close battle), and would greatly appreciate it if anyone has tips for gear upgrades with SSF restrictions in mind.


To add - I am working to get a +1 spectre chest and farming niko + delve everyday. Otherwise, I am also aiming to get some cluster jewels but they are proving to be quite difficult for SSF.


I think aim for 1 cluster set and use any large minion jewel. For example: 12 passive large and allocate all passives (that's 100% inc damage actually!).

instead of aura medium, use minion medium with renewal + feasting fiends (actually easy to roll this).

Another option is two large jewels and socket ghastly eye instead of medium+small... then take life nodes from passive tree instead. renewal + feasting helps a lot for minion surivability, so you need to get minion leech somewhere!


For armour extra quality will increase 6L chance:
1. armour shard to 20%
2. bench craft +quality
3. syndicate craft +quality



Are we supposed to use a 8 passive or 12 passive large cluster jewel for the 1 cluster setup for pure spectre build? In the guide it says use a 8 passive large cluster jewel.



I think she's referring to 12 passives to me specifically because I'm SSF. Generally less passives, the better as it requires less SP.
hey, I'm proud to come back as a pure spectre summoner after playing attack builds in 3.13.
This is my SLAVE DRIVER with a decent investment, lowlife aura support Guardian setup, the good ole shavronne's one: 12 million shaper DPS with flasks on and AG


after the 3.13 changes i thought id never get to +10million dps with spectres without going stupid building like 3k hp or umbilicus niche/aura stacking
this build is around 30 ex, the helmet being the most expensive, you know, pesudo 7link

https://pastebin.com/4Cpciisw (i wrote down in the Algor mortis all my AG gear [kingmaker, -9% helmet, -4% resis anomalous predator and my 7% increased damage from divergent clarity])
The link for pob has all the config without vaal skills on

Also im a guardian, i care not for 40k life minion, but if u're a witch and they die, just swap elemental army for empower, giving him +10k life love and losing 15% dmg only
Last edited by redrios on May 23, 2021, 2:47:03 AM
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kayella wrote:
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granddaddy69 wrote:
Any way to upgrade further from pure spectres after you've done everything?


Next step is changing spectres to 7L helmet (15ex) -> 8L helmet/9L (130ex, 1 mirror).

DPS for SO dagger: 310k -> 420k -> 548k



I did a POB experiment with these helmets (Why are they called 7/8 L btw? It seems rather 6/7 to me, unless +1 to socketed gems counts as a pseudo-link..
However, I do not get anywhere near these damage boosts. The replacement of Vaal Haste with Bonechill really hurts the damage.

My current build: https://pastebin.com/4xbMRCyx
DPS: 333,059
Kay's Pure Spectre: https://pastebin.com/JgkQDMny (as Kay has posted, but with Awakened GMP re-enabled, it was disabled)
DPS: 343,073
POB experiment with 6/7-L Bone Helmet: https://pastebin.com/7NqQMbbe
6L helmet: 205,486
7L helmet: 328,027

So I must be missing something crucial in the POB experiment. I did not change the skill tree from the original POB. Until I figure out what that is, I see no need to try a 6-L helmet, which I can afford at the moment.

Do not worry, exiles, I do not expect anyone to look into these, but I will keep searching for what I am missing the POB experiment.

So the only upgrades I may decide to get are more life on rings, shield, boots, amulet, and finetune jewels with slightly more damage. There is no reason to end the league with any currency left, and currency is coming in fast when running juiced T16 maps, which this build melts.
Last edited by Valolrak on May 23, 2021, 9:23:43 AM
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Skullcrabster wrote:
Hello fellow summoners. I understand completely that it's no fun to educate a noob but seeing some friendly discussion in this thread I decided to ask for help anyway.

Let me start by saying that I'm new to PoE and this is only my second character, also my first one was a rather tanky Juggernaut (but lacking in clear speed) so maybe my expectations are skewed.

I wanted a build with fast mapping speed to play Heist content so I went with Kay's Spiders and Spectres. During leveling through acts I pretty much facerolled all the content and it was extremely enjoyable to just look at the minimap and run ahead and let my summons do the rest.

However now that I am somewhat high level (85 atm) and have pretty decent gear (40-50ex) I feel really squishy and afraid to run the map at full speed and have to stutter step and wait at every corner for my summons to go ahead and clear the way for me. Otherwise I just get one-shot every now and again if just going yolo (I'm obviously spamming flasks, dying with all buffs active).

Having spent last day trying to figure out what I might be doing wrong and I'm starting to think that maybe I'm not doing it wrong but my expectations were a bit too high.

I would greatly appreciate any feedback, my character is public. Thanks!

I don't mind taking the time to look at peoples character and help them and I would love to help you but unfortunately I have never played the spiders version :/ Seeing how it uses double daggers instead of a wand + shield like pure spectres I'm not surprised it's a bit squishy. But as I said haven't played it so no idea how squishy it's supposed to be.

That's a very impressive investment. My pure spectre character is maybe 20-40 ex worth and sirus felt really easy to kill and apart from random ultimatum one shots in T14+ I haven't died a whole lot. Can recommend that build version.
Can you guys defeat Sirus with the spectre spider build?
He just oneshots me in his final form. It is easy to get to the final stage, but then his laser beam just kills me and I have no chance to dodge this :(

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