The threshold thing is not true, i just tested it, done 2 white minotaurs and 2 white hydras really fast and it felt exactly the same for 83 and 84.
Test it and see it, if you can. No noticeable difference.
Rest assured that this is not valid, this is probably nothing but a glitch on the db.
You are right just tried to confirm the thing i heard of RS (not sure which streamer it was) but there is a separate tab in podb for the Spectres type and there it is always 300%.
The threshold thing is not true, i just tested it, done 2 white minotaurs and 2 white hydras really fast and it felt exactly the same for 83 and 84.
Test it and see it, if you can. No noticeable difference.
Rest assured that this is not valid, this is probably nothing but a glitch on the db.
You are right just tried to confirm the thing i heard of RS (not sure which streamer it was) but there is a separate tab in podb for the Spectres type and there it is always 300%.
What if spectres go in the chest.
Skin of the loyal, corrupted +1 gems.
Level 4 empower
Level 21 spectre gem.
Dual Wielding wands with +1 all gems, +1 minion gems.
+1 spectre gem level boots.
+1 int gems amulet.
+2 minion gem levels ascendancy.
Thats a level 36 specter gem.
Depending on how gem levels scale, that may be enough to reach the spectre level to 84.
If so, you put Vaal Summon Skeleton in the Helm
(+3 minion gems, level 20 minion damage, level 20 hypothermia)
Use 4 green socket triad gloves.
Scale Hatred aura up as high as practical.
I think the gem level 36 spectres would clear like mad
(redemption sentry)
And the pseudo 7 link vaal summon skeleton would be amazing on boss fights, even 10 bosses.
(Can get that cluster jewel node, minions immune for 4 seconds after summoning, and also get the node that heals minions when a minion dies, skeletons dying would heal the spectres.)
What if spectres go in the chest.
Skin of the loyal, corrupted +1 gems.
Level 4 empower
Level 21 spectre gem.
Dual Wielding wands with +1 all gems, +1 minion gems.
+1 spectre gem level boots.
+1 int gems ammulet.
+2 minion gem levels ascendency.
Thats a level 36 specter gem.
Depending on how gem levels scale, that may be enough to reach the spectre level to 84.
If so, you put Vaal Summon Skeleton in the Helm
(+3 minion gems, level 20 minion damage, level 20 hypothermia)
Use 4 green socket triad gloves.
Scale Hatred aura up as high as practical.
I think the gem level 36 spectres would clear like mad
(redemption sentry)
And the psudo 7 link vaal summon skeleton would be amazing on boss fights, even 10 bosses.
(Can get that cluster jewel node, minions immune for 4 seconds after summoning, and also get the node that heals minions when a minion dies, skeletons dying would heal the spectres.)
What do you al think?
Super expensive, but I think it would DOMINATE!
Not sure how you got to lvl 36, I personally get to lvl 32 with wand or lvl 33 with two-handed weapon (+2 support which boost empower).
Also, using an empower means dropping a dps gem, for about half+ the damage of that gem (overall 14% less damage on RS), but more minion life, but that's not a big amount either (i'm getting about 20% increased life on RS, from 100k to 119k).
And, the biggest issue i see is the price. That will require an enormous amount of currency and/or time to do that, for not that much goods i think.
Not the mention the fact that you loose a spectre, which basically drop the overall damage by at least 20% (considering that the setup doesn't provide any more damage, just spectre life and levels) and that's also makes the build loose quite a good amount of life (~500 in my case)
Last edited by bigtoaster64 on Jan 14, 2021, 4:28:29 PM
Not sure how you got to lvl 36, I personally get to lvl 31 with wand or lvl 32 with two-handed weapon (+2 support which boost empower).
Also, using an empower means dropping a dps gem, for about half+ the damage of that gem (overall 14% less damage on RS), but more minion life, but that's not a big amount either (i'm getting about 20% increased life on RS, from 100k to 119k).
And, the biggest issue i see is the price. That will require an enormous amount of currency and/or time to do that, for not that much goods i think.
Not the mention the fact that you loose a spectre, which basically drop the overall damage by at least 20% (considering that the setup doesn't provide any more damage)
I got to 36 by doing the math.
21 base
+1 boots
+1 amulet
+2 chest
+5 empower
+2 ascendancy
+4 wands
Thats level 36.
Oh, and I forgot one, you can have a ammy with both +1 int gems and +1 str gems, adding 1 more to the empower
Level 4 empower in a corrupted +1 gems skin of the loyal becomes a level 6 empower, that's 5 extra levels, that makes it a very good dps support.
Yes, it loses a spectre, loss of 20% spectre dps, but GAINS a MASSIVE single target dps from skeletons, which would be level 31.
4 Spectres is plenty for clear, skeletons make up for any losses on bosses.
Your point about cost is well taken.
Might as well run an aura stacker instead with the cost.
Not sure how you got to lvl 36, I personally get to lvl 31 with wand or lvl 32 with two-handed weapon (+2 support which boost empower).
Also, using an empower means dropping a dps gem, for about half+ the damage of that gem (overall 14% less damage on RS), but more minion life, but that's not a big amount either (i'm getting about 20% increased life on RS, from 100k to 119k).
And, the biggest issue i see is the price. That will require an enormous amount of currency and/or time to do that, for not that much goods i think.
Not the mention the fact that you loose a spectre, which basically drop the overall damage by at least 20% (considering that the setup doesn't provide any more damage)
I got to 36 by doing the math.
21 base
+1 boots
+1 amulet
+2 chest
+5 empower
+2 ascendancy
+4 wands
Thats level 36.
Oh, and I forgot one, you can have a ammy with both +1 int gems and +1 str gems, adding 1 more to the empower
Level 4 empower in a corrupted +1 gems skin of the loyal becomes a level 6 empower, that's 5 extra levels, that makes it a very good dps support.
Yes, it loses a spectre, loss of 20% spectre dps, but GAINS a MASSIVE single target dps from skeletons, which would be level 31.
4 Spectres is plenty for clear, skeletons make up for any losses on bosses.
Your point about cost is well taken.
Might as well run an aura stacker instead with the cost.
But I was dreaming big!
My bad! Didn't noticed the "dual wand" part :)
And yea for sure Skeletons would melt bosses instead of spectres to make up for the loss.
And like you said, I think that I would play something else at that price range lol!
I think I'm gonna still try to make a viable pure spectre build this league, but some minor changes according to how well spectres survive and kill stuff. Cause we still don't know how it's going to perform.
Last edited by bigtoaster64 on Jan 14, 2021, 4:36:21 PM
