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Hi Kay I just bumped my own reply. Would you take a look?
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SnowRhex wrote:
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kayella wrote:

I feel like I want to cry.

Cheer up Kay! I can't describe how much you've done for this build and the community, but do remember you always have our support.
The nerf is mainly targeting low life% spectres and support spectres. I believe a majority of spectres are still playable. It's not the end of the world.

Edit:
I was checking PoB and thought that taking Bone Barrier instead of Mistress of Sacrifice will improve the current situation.
Bone Barrier

Grants Level 20 Bone Armour Skill
1% additional Physical Damage Reduction per Minion, up to 10%
2% increased Recovery Rate of Life and Energy Shield per Minion, up to 20%
Minions have 20% more Maximum Life

Reworked Mistress of Sacrifice

40% increased Skill Effect Duration
Your Offering Skills also affect you
Your Offerings have 50% reduced Effect on you

Mistress of Sacrifice has received two major nerfs in a row. I personally see less reason to take it. RS necro does not rely on skill duration that much like ED+C and some other builds. It's true that Mistress grants Bone/Flesh offering buffs, but Bone Barrier also gives both you and your minions defensive benefits.

Take Slave Driver for example. The nerf from lv.76 to lv.72 is 20.83% less max life, while Bone Barrier gives 20% more max life ;)

Also, the granted lv.20 Bone Armour skill saves you a whole gem slot. I see your current setup is using steelskin, but Bone Armour is simply a better steelskin (both takes 70% dmg, total 2209 dmg, 3s cd, but bone armour applies to you and all of your minions).

With Steelskin gone, I think a new setup can be:
Trigger Wand: Desecrate - Offering - Tempest Shield (take away spell cascade)
Shield: CWDT - Immortal Call - Withering Step (or inc duration)

What do you think?
Hi kay,

Hope you're well,Thank you so much for your lovely and hard work on this forum and other SM,

So chin up and lets raise some dead it is what we do after all!

Singe it is a bossing league i was thinking crabby specter with tanu and decent clear and good bossing with harvest going core so can summon them .

waiting for your guide for 3.13

Thanks a lot kay!
Hey Kay you are the best. We all know how much work you have put into everything (well the majority of mature gamers in our spectre community that is) Keep your chin up, have a beer or whatever you like to do to relax and everything is going to be alright!


For minion survivability, until we get decent gear, I think we can use Skullhead and bone offering, with Victario's Charity + Necromantic Aegis.

This would provide for our minions:
> Minion block chance: 59%-69%+ --> 24% (shield) + 10% (helmet) + 25-35%+ (bone offering)
> Frenzy charges (shield)
> 2% life regen per second (helmet)
> Life on Block (bone offering)
> some resistances from shield

If we take Decay Ward cluster (3 passives), we get our minions to 75%/55% block chance with bone offering, plus 20% minion life and extra 2% life on block. This should cover all minion survivability needs.

We lose Flesh Offering, unless we use "Leash of Oblation", but I think we can live with it.
Last edited by 6_din_49 on Jan 13, 2021, 4:15:59 AM
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6_din_49 wrote:
For minion survivability, until we get decent gear, I think we can use Skullhead and bone offering, with Victario's Charity + Necromantic Aegis.

This would provide for our minions:
> Minion block chance: 59%-69%+ --> 24% (shield) + 10% (helmet) + 25-35%+ (bone offering)
> Frenzy charges (shield)
> 2% life regen per second (helmet)
> Life on Block (bone offering)
> some resistances from shield

If we take Decay Ward cluster (3 passives), we get our minions to 75%/55% block chance with bone offering, plus 20% minion life and extra 2% life on block. This should cover all minion survivability needs.

We lose Flesh Offering, unless we use "Leash of Oblation", but I think we can live with it.


I think Decay Ward for Anointment actually. Save a lot of travel passives. And drop Enduring Bond.

Necro Aegis is not good. Necro will become super squishy instead.

Phantasm + Life from death on cluster might be good option too.
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Umm, with the nerf, jinxed juju still an option, or is +1 lvl amulet mandatory?
really liked juju :(
What are the options to replace spell echo for SO? Empower?
Minion damage seems giving more damage but the overall lvl increase gives life/damage/accuracy which seems better?
Thoughts?

It is ridiculous but I think that SO are really the least nerfed in this patch.
That once again shows the true skills of GGG game design team...
Last edited by hidden_gobsek on Jan 13, 2021, 5:19:33 AM
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hidden_gobsek wrote:
What are the options to replace spell echo for SO? Empower?
Minion damage seems giving more damage but the overall lvl increase gives life/damage/accuracy which seems better?
Thoughts?

It is ridiculous but I think that SO are really the least nerfed in this patch.
That once again shows the true skills of GGG game design team...
Empower wont be that good, unless you need it for the extra spectre.

I'd go for Hypothermia/Maim/Impale/Predator, depending on the rest of setup (if they do any cold damage, if I stack impale, if it's hard to color the body armor, etc)
Last edited by 6_din_49 on Jan 13, 2021, 5:47:06 AM
For me, playing spectres is an.. aesthetic choice. Spectres are cool! I literally began playing PoE specifically to play with spectres, and I'm going to continue playing with them regardless of the occasional nerf. ... Other things are cool, too, I guess, and I may fiddle with other class/skill types eventually, but there are plenty of ARPGs that let me hit things with an axe or throw around a bit of fire. Necromancers on the level of PoE's are essentially nonexistent, and this is the only game that scratches that itch. It's what I'm here for.

So keep up the good work~
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SnowRhex wrote:
I really want to know what you think on this. Even if it's me lacking some understanding of the ascendancy, please correct me.
Plus it's not your post's problem, this game has too many necro haters. I watche the post grew from 800 likes, I say it got more dislikes than you think. Most people saw the world spectre and click thumbs down without even thinking.


Helmet with +3 gem and 2 supports might be the best. Or more supports from harvest craft if you have a lot of currency.


An option for slave driver and other aoe spectre could be conc, dmg, life and put Empower in a red socket. This helmet cost me 20c in Heist.



My plan for ascendancy was Bone Barrier, Mistress, Unnatural. I think Mistress is always useful because it gives extra block and life on block. Plague Bringer doesn't work so well because offerings eat the corpses.
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Last edited by kayella on Jan 13, 2021, 6:40:31 AM

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