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Waltzbear wrote:
Dear all,
I have some noob questions on "Zealotry":
- Does it provide more spell damage for my Spectres (Syndicated Ops)? I read that it does, but also heard that it doesn't apply to minions.
- If I link Generosity Support add to Zealotry, would it result in even higher spell damage for the Spectres?

Thank you!


It does not help SO because they cast a trigger spell. The trigger spell is kinda like cast on crit support (CoC links to melee attack and trigger a spell). And SO's trigger spell triggers a ranged attack skill. The trigger spell doesn't do anything else. Zealotry doesn't do anything for attack skills, so it doesn't help SO.

Zealotry works for another spectre like Baranite Preacher because it has a trigger spell that triggers another spell. And it works for all other spell spectres.


Generosity gives a nice bonus to Zealotry. It's 39% increased effect. Zealotry is 15% more damage and 39% increase crit chance. Link to Generosity: 15 x 1.39 and 39 x 1.39. So, 20% more damage and 54% increased crit chance.

The part of Zealotry that doesn't work with minions is "create Consecrated Ground". It used to work with minions, but GGG disabled it because of zombie builds in 3.9 :(
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I saw that Kay used Vaal Blade Vortex in her Heist build, and it was fantastic good together with SD spectres :)

Thx Kay

/Onin
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kayella wrote:
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Waltzbear wrote:
Dear all,
I have some noob questions on "Zealotry":
- Does it provide more spell damage for my Spectres (Syndicated Ops)? I read that it does, but also heard that it doesn't apply to minions.
- If I link Generosity Support add to Zealotry, would it result in even higher spell damage for the Spectres?

Thank you!


It does not help SO because they cast a trigger spell. The trigger spell is kinda like cast on crit support (CoC links to melee attack and trigger a spell). And SO's trigger spell triggers a ranged attack skill. The trigger spell doesn't do anything else. Zealotry doesn't do anything for attack skills, so it doesn't help SO.

Zealotry works for another spectre like Baranite Preacher because it has a trigger spell that triggers another spell. And it works for all other spell spectres.


Generosity gives a nice bonus to Zealotry. It's 39% increased effect. Zealotry is 15% more damage and 39% increase crit chance. Link to Generosity: 15 x 1.39 and 39 x 1.39. So, 20% more damage and 54% increased crit chance.

The part of Zealotry that doesn't work with minions is "create Consecrated Ground". It used to work with minions, but GGG disabled it because of zombie builds in 3.9 :(



Thank you, Kay! Thank goodness you point that out, or else I would be wasting 2 slots and 50% mana reserves!

What aura would you recommend, in replacement of Zealotry?
Will "Pride" + Generosity be ok? (Though I am not sure if Physical damage still works after I convert all of them to cold via Triad Grip).

Currently I have:
- Hatred (No mana reserves due to Onyx Amulet) + Generosity
- Skittlebots + Bonechill (On Devouring Diadem)
- Flesh & Stone
- Dread Banner.

For Vaal, I have the following on my Triad Grip:
- Vaal Haste
- Vaal Grace






Last edited by Waltzbear on Dec 31, 2020, 8:53:19 PM
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Waltzbear wrote:

Thank you, Kay! Thank goodness you point that out, or else I would be wasting 2 slots and 50% mana reserves!

What aura would you recommend, in replacement of Zealotry?
Will "Pride" + Generosity be ok? (Though I am not sure if Physical damage still works after I convert all of them to cold via Triad Grip).

Currently I have:
- Hatred (No mana reserves due to Onyx Amulet) + Generosity
- Skittlebots + Bonechill (On Devouring Diadem)
- Flesh & Stone
- Dread Banner.

For Vaal, I have the following on my Triad Grip:
- Vaal Haste
- Vaal Grace


It sounds like you're only using vaal haste so the next step would probably to reserve haste as an aura as well as per the guide. (in your diadem)
Hi.
I love your Guides.
There is one thing that I don't understand why you have a basalt flask instead of granite in the "leage start". I understood that the basalt flask is only worth it when you have a lot of armor or is it because of the reflected damage?
Thanks a lot. I hope that is not a silly question.
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kalhang wrote:
Hi.
I love your Guides.
There is one thing that I don't understand why you have a basalt flask instead of granite in the "leage start". I understood that the basalt flask is only worth it when you have a lot of armor or is it because of the reflected damage?
Thanks a lot. I hope that is not a silly question.


For league start, a cheap and easy upgrade is Rumi's Concoction (unique granite) to get the +3000 armour and extra block chance.

So you can use both crafted basalt + rumi's.



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Waltzbear wrote:
What aura would you recommend, in replacement of Zealotry?


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melink14 wrote:
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Waltzbear wrote:

For Vaal, I have the following on my Triad Grip:
- Vaal Haste
- Vaal Grace


It sounds like you're only using vaal haste so the next step would probably to reserve haste as an aura as well as per the guide. (in your diadem)



This is the right idea. Reserve Haste.

If you want more smooth mapping unlink Haste and use a Watchers eye with haste/phasing.


This will give you permanent phasing which is a big QOL upgrade.

You can see what it's like in this video:
https://youtu.be/Io0VgHpN5iM?t=58
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kayella wrote:
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Waltzbear wrote:
What aura would you recommend, in replacement of Zealotry?


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melink14 wrote:
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Waltzbear wrote:

For Vaal, I have the following on my Triad Grip:
- Vaal Haste
- Vaal Grace


It sounds like you're only using vaal haste so the next step would probably to reserve haste as an aura as well as per the guide. (in your diadem)



This is the right idea. Reserve Haste.

If you want more smooth mapping unlink Haste and use a Watchers eye with haste/phasing.


This will give you permanent phasing which is a big QOL upgrade.

You can see what it's like in this video:
https://youtu.be/Io0VgHpN5iM?t=58


Thank you for the suggestions, melink14 and Kay!!!
The Watcher's eye is Awesome!!!
Thanks for the great guide! I just hit level 90 in ssf flashback with it. I'm running syndicate operatives impale version.

I have a question though, a lot of people are talking about pinpoint support. Do they even work on SO-s? I tested them on Baran (Al 5) and it looks like they dont get less projectiles per attack so im assuming they dont get intensity stacks so therefore they dont get 90% more damage like they should? Or did i make a mistake or something?

My links were spectre-spell echo-volley-predator-impale-brutality, and i swapped bruta for pinpoint. Spectres kept having billions of projectiles against Baran but no damage. Or maybe I was seeing wrong?
I guess my question is: did anyone make Pinpoint work with syndicate operatives or should i just forget this gem existed? :D

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