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POB Community doesn't really calculate actual DPS of a lot of spectres correctly. You can at least tell what brings it up or down, except in cases of what you just typed - Spell Echo vs Awakened Spell Echo. I can say, after running a bunch of shaper sub bosses with normal spell echo and awakened spell it might be a teeny bit faster DPS, but not 50ex worth faster.

(Also Im jealous of the damage mod on your shield, I kinda want one like it now)

The shield is very cool! I didn't mention it correctly but awakened spell echo is a dps loss vs improved critical damage support actually since my spectres crit 93% of the time now , but that seems weird to me so i was hoping that somebody might be able to tell me if pob works for general if its goes up or down is correct haha

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Astraithious wrote:

The shield is very cool! I didn't mention it correctly but awakened spell echo is a dps loss vs improved critical damage support actually since my spectres crit 93% of the time now , but that seems weird to me so i was hoping that somebody might be able to tell me if pob works for general if its goes up or down is correct haha

I don't think POB can calculate that. Maybe if you make another toon, socketed it on a regular skill gem, it might tell you. But I can tell you for sure, I don't think that POB is calculating the 19% chance for double damage on awakened spell echo for minions.

Only thing I can suggest further is pick your favorite high hp boss on a map and run it again and again with no mods or similar mods and see if you see a difference.

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Maelael wrote:

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Astraithious wrote:

The shield is very cool! I didn't mention it correctly but awakened spell echo is a dps loss vs improved critical damage support actually since my spectres crit 93% of the time now , but that seems weird to me so i was hoping that somebody might be able to tell me if pob works for general if its goes up or down is correct haha

I don't think POB can calculate that. Maybe if you make another toon, socketed it on a regular skill gem, it might tell you. But I can tell you for sure, I don't think that POB is calculating the 19% chance for double damage on awakened spell echo for minions.

Only thing I can suggest further is pick your favorite high hp boss on a map and run it again and again with no mods or similar mods and see if you see a difference.

Honestly I can't tell the difference on any boss, I can phase sirus a8 with both option in a second so it's really annoying to try and see, the double damage portion also makes me think that it would be better but pob doesn't seem to calculate that as it only increases the speed but not sure yet. I found that everything dies so fast vulnerability is useless so I will be using assassins' mark for bosses that live longer than a second, basically you don't see hp bars for bosses at t16 if you're solo and only 2 seconds at max with a party of 6 but at that point i cant see anything to test.

Also is there a way to make kingmaker a buff that is shown also? or a way to simulate it? Thanks for the input!

Hey guys,

I switched from the OG Slavedrivers to the meta of spectres SO. Well....I kinda regret it???!!!

The single taregt is so insanly bad compared to the other spectres...so can anybody tell me please why my SO are performing so bad right now ? I mean I couldn't even kill the crusader on a simple T16 map.

With the slavedrivers all the content was no issue at all.

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Astraithious wrote:

Honestly I can't tell the difference on any boss, I can phase sirus a8 with both option in a second so it's really annoying to try and see, the double damage portion also makes me think that it would be better but pob doesn't seem to calculate that as it only increases the speed but not sure yet. I found that everything dies so fast vulnerability is useless so I will be using assassins' mark for bosses that live longer than a second, basically you don't see hp bars for bosses at t16 if you're solo and only 2 seconds at max with a party of 6 but at that point i cant see anything to test.

Also is there a way to make kingmaker a buff that is shown also? or a way to simulate it? Thanks for the input!

Yea, you have to ditch some gear/resocket and not amp anything to test. I have similar issues with everything but odd things just deleting. Like I'll turn off all of my auras and socket just spectre+gem Im testing.

So you can edit items in POB and add in buffs like that. Do it on a jewel ideally.

Hi,

im realative new to Specters so i gave it a try.
Im following the "poor man's version" of Kay's called Starter
with Syndicate operatives.

But : i feel they lack damage and i dont know why.
Sure, they can kill yard trash realy fast, but thats possible with every build.
A lot of Map bosses and others (guardians ,sirus, shaper ... ) are the real problem. taking realy long to kill em .

can someone please take a look ?
https://pastebin.com/TDaLfaiU

Im spamming Armageddon brand for EE (as far as i understand how it works).
i have convocation on my movement key and try to hold a bit of distance to the prey.
normaly i use feeding frenzy switching to predator on single targets.


im not rich so i can't buy all the needed (2 large , 4 Med, 4 small) Cluster jewels

i can maybe fill one Cluster ring, but i can't find a Pop for a tree with only one ring as a Gap filler.


Thanks !

I guess I'm kinda mostly done with all the gear and leveling (99 would require skipping Sirus fights since I always mess it up lol). I tried Awakened Spell Echo and was not impressed. For that price, it's only worth it for the sake of min-maxing and not even then... I bought a better wand instead (for the same price and marginally better).

All that's left to do is maybe farm 36/40 achievements, but I'm feeling pretty burnt out and not sure I would be able to get there.

All in all, great value for the investment.

I have most build done for me, its rly low damage for single target
some one can help ?

Has anyone tried Death's Door for the AG? In theory that should prevent corrupted blood from being applied to the AG if it works the same way as other bleed immunity affixes (stanching flasks) work.

Hello, How do you deal with proximity shield mobs?

I have 4 spectres (syndicate operatives)
my gem links are RS MD SE Volley VP Wed