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dragonagefun wrote:
I was looking at potential spectres and came across Darktongue Risen.

Dmg 140%
Life 252%
Attack Time 2.5s
Special is Ground Slam.. might be kind of interesting for 3.11.


Anyone know where to find this spectre? I ran all the Doedre related maps / zones and didn't find him.


Might not be a good spectre.

Tags ghost_blood, undead, zombie

= Slow moving (bad)

Attack Time 2.4 Second

= Super slow attack (very bad)

GroundSlam
ProphecyZombieGroundSlam

Cooldown Time: 1.5 Second

= Very hard to reduce minion cooldown (bad)



The ability is called GroundSlam, but the true name is ProphecyZombieGroundSlam.

When GGG updates skills, they only update player skills. So ProphecyZombieGroundSlam will probably stay the same and have no slam tag.
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Thanks Kayella, I don't really know how to read POEDB. I thought 2.4s would be quick attack speed and not the other way around.
Hi kayella,
thanks for your great guide I have done all contenet T16 maps, shaper and Sirius on PS4 Pro Standard league I use the base spectre options with Scale of Esh , I link my equip if useful for other ps4 player.
Im using avian skill on my boot for better dps so i replace skibotters for holy relic, what you think about avian skill ?

p.s.
in the crafting session +1 minion wand you can add the budget way to get is using a lot orb of alteration ;)


Hi Kay,

This guide is very impressive. Thanks for all the work in keeping up with updates. I like how there's a lot of options to customize it and of course being able to pick different spectres.

I made some test characters this weekend to try to see if this will be my league start or my 2nd character (still undecided for now, either this or CA/TR trickster).

When leveling, there is a lot to do, resummoning dead zombies, the occasional dead spectre, resummoning skeletons/SRS, using offering, convocate, travel skill spam, etc. It seems pretty fun.

I was wondering once you have the base build geared out, how "automatic" is the build? What I mean is, I am not sure how much casting you usually need to do yourself once you have things like the trigger wand crafted and your minions mostly stay alive?
Last edited by Seldric_ on Jun 15, 2020, 10:22:27 AM
Hi there,

Thanks for the great guide, I will probably play Spectres for the first time next league.
Any thoughts on the Scinteel Synthite monster ? It's very hard to get but looks pretty strong.
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Seldric_ wrote:
I was wondering once you have the base build geared out, how "automatic" is the build? What I mean is, I am not sure how much casting you usually need to do yourself once you have things like the trigger wand crafted and your minions mostly stay alive?


There is a 'easy mapping' mode. You can play it with just 3 mouse buttons or keep a hand near your flask keys too.

I demonstrate it here: https://youtu.be/qKFX0Dpt0oE?t=60

Set up is here: https://youtu.be/qKFX0Dpt0oE?t=1184


If you look a little futher in the video, you can see the typical set up. Mostly you will cast convocation to move spectres and flame dash to get out of trouble or jump terrain. Deathmark is to focus spectres on a single target like boss or big rare. Storm brand for EE/curse just use for bosses.


It depends on spectres, most spectres from Acts have low life (100-150% modifier). They have good DPS though. Maps from mapping like Redemption Sentry have 400-500% life mod. So they don't usually die.
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Hi from Tenerife.

Your guide is very clear for people that not understand English very well, the next league I try to start with it, I Like:

_ Detailed guide.
_ Crafting detailed guide.
_ League starter.
_ No need many money.
_ Very strong, will make all content....

Congratulations, King Regards.
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thomzon wrote:
Hi there,

Thanks for the great guide, I will probably play Spectres for the first time next league.
Any thoughts on the Scinteel Synthite monster ? It's very hard to get but looks pretty strong.


They are tanky but DPS feels low. I don't really recommend them.

Some other people posted their ideas as well:


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Rikkuh wrote:

my conclusion is they are slow compared with SG/SD
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I alredy tested some synthesis spectres
Flaric Synthete
Frosal Synthete
Scinteel Synthete

This all three have the same cast speed with auto attacks 150% dmg 500% life and my conclusion is they are slow compared with SG/SD, they have some fun skills the problem with that is not the cd, is the cast speed


https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2181275/page/888#p22972072



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wasabexx wrote:

my conclusion is that they are terrible.

Spoiler
I read Lyends spectre build, and so I tried out the Scinteel Synthites today. I really went all out with everything I could to boost their DPS, using 20/20 gems like Wrath + Zealotry, etc. I even put on Awakened gems where possible. But my conclusion is that they are terrible. I really don't know why he thinks they are good. They have super poor map clear speed, and their single target DPS is even worse.

I tried a bunch of different support gem combinations, and I think that the problem is that it's very difficult to boost ALL of it's attacks. In otherwords, it has some spells, so that spell echo is good, but it also seems to have 2 attacks where spell echo has no effect. Same thing with any of the projectile supports (LMP, slower projectiles, pierce etc) - they work on his main attack, but not on the other 2 attacks. It did help a lot to use Damage on Full Life, that seems to work for all of it's attacks. But otherwise, 2/3rds of his attacks don't seem to benefit from spell echo or projectile supports. Or maybe I'm missing something? But even in Lyends videos they look bad, so idk why he likes them.


https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2181275/page/1127#p23253414




After patch notes, I will update the forum guide. My plan is only recommend the strongest spectres so people can get best experience. Maybe later I can add some info about other spectres too!

Oh, Bex also said that new Harvest monsters might be spectres, so hopefully something nice there too!
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Last edited by kayella on Jun 15, 2020, 11:57:45 AM
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kayella wrote:
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Seldric_ wrote:
I was wondering once you have the base build geared out, how "automatic" is the build? What I mean is, I am not sure how much casting you usually need to do yourself once you have things like the trigger wand crafted and your minions mostly stay alive?


There is a 'easy mapping' mode. You can play it with just 3 mouse buttons or keep a hand near your flask keys too.

I demonstrate it here: https://youtu.be/qKFX0Dpt0oE?t=60

Set up is here: https://youtu.be/qKFX0Dpt0oE?t=1184


If you look a little futher in the video, you can see the typical set up. Mostly you will cast convocation to move spectres and flame dash to get out of trouble or jump terrain. Deathmark is to focus spectres on a single target like boss or big rare. Storm brand for EE/curse just use for bosses.


It depends on spectres, most spectres from Acts have low life (100-150% modifier). They have good DPS though. Maps from mapping like Redemption Sentry have 400-500% life mod. So they don't usually die.


Thank you for the video links + timestamps. I'll need to practice this a bit to see which set up feels best for me.

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Diblaz wrote:
Hi kayella,
thanks for your great guide I have done all contenet T16 maps, shaper and Sirius on PS4 Pro Standard league I use the base spectre options with Scale of Esh , I link my equip if useful for other ps4 player.
Im using avian skill on my boot for better dps so i replace skibotters for holy relic, what you think about avian skill ?

p.s.
in the crafting session +1 minion wand you can add the budget way to get is using a lot orb of alteration ;)


Thanks for PS4 feedback! It's helpful to know the build works on consoles!


Oh, I had alt orb method before, but GGG nerfed +minion weighting so it eats alterations. I'll put it back it so people know there is another way.


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