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first of all you can look at my gear and see the difference i am not even close to min-max and i got only 5900 hp and 400 es but i melt everything->every boss:shaper, uber. sirius.

second: get-> awakened elemental damage with attack and
switch deathmark to pierce.
third: increase the vermilon rings to 8% with fertile
fourth: in the large cluster jewel you should have: vicious bite/renewal or vicious bite/renewal/feasting fiends-> get vicious bite
fifth: you can think about allocating aegis and getting a shield with +2 frenzy +2 power charge for minions
six: try to raise your chaos resistance to at least 0

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Well all...I finished up my gear (some gem leveling still). I took whispers of doom temporarily until i could afford awakened curse on hit, but likely won't happen before league end. I feel REALLY squishy.
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I guess I figured I'd be safer with all the cold damage and blind (AG has Mask of the Stitched Demon, a blind chest with 10% health as ES, kingmaker, 2% regen boots if hit, and southbound). I have about 7500 ehp 6412 hp, 1066 es. Resists are 75/75/75/-20. I'm almost thinking I need to switch over to Bone offering I'm getting smacked so hard.

Profile should be public. I don't have the Redemption Sentries added to my POB, so if anyone had any idea what their damage is on my build currently I'd be interested.

Thoughts? (Also, I bricked both redeemer slams for minion damage. I double bricked one of them with cold damage to chilled enemies. I redeemed (lol) with a lucky annul). This is also why they don't have quality yet. I forgot (lol) that slamming will remove the quality and just like that almost 1ex of fertiles went away.

Character is AzureStonedGolem (respec'ed from stone golems ofc!)

Double Cluster...Renewal/Feasting Fiends, 4 first among equals/vengeful commander, 2 surging vitality, 1 fettle, 1 kitava's.

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From my Point of View on your Gear and Tree you mixed it a bit to much up between how these Guide here on first Page is written and some Things are suggested in last few Pages.

Little side Node from my Expirience i had made Yesterday. I use CwDt with Steelskin on my Shield and was really hyped as my awakened Curse on Hit finally hit lvl 5 in Weapon Swap and try to changed to it. I took Frostbite, cause why not i thought but it was a huge Mistake. Right after first Map i vaaled that shitty awakened Curse on Hit and switched back to CwDt-Steelskin. It was only much Overkill for me and never needed really cause most Mobs i see Ingame are frozen. That alone is an huge DefenseLayer you should aim first for.
Your Helmet is really good enough as it is i think and you missed the most Importent Node on your ClusterJewels. Vicious Bite is a must for me on both Large Cluster Ones right Together with Renewal and Feasting Fiends to scale the Crit of your Redemption Sentry´s to a Point there most Mobs get frozen as soon as your Spectres hit em.
Thing with Defense is simply use every Layer you can afford and it will change the feeling pretty much.
I switched my Quicksilver Flask out for
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and never looked back. If your Movementspeed is high enough to do it, give it a Try!-) Also try out an Small Cluster Jewel with Enduring Composure instead of Kitava´s Teachings and enjoy free Endurance Charges while playing that adds more PhysDamReduction.
I see you took Elemental Equilibrium on Tree but might have overseen that these Jewel you use in your Belt negates it with its "Minions deal X amount of Light Damage" . That should really easy be fixed with changing it to One without.
I suggest looking for an Astral Plate like most People use, they are not that Expensive at these Point in League. Look for One with with 25+ ChaosResis and do not bother to influence it further! As arikshkol already suggested, Chaos Resis are importent and i think 0 is an good start to aim for but really smooth it feels for me at 20+. It´s not needed to invest more in it as 30 Positive Ones from my Expirience. As arikshkol also already suggested, give an double Charges Shield a try to improve Crit of your Spectres further. But here i like to say its much much cheaper to awaken an Shield yourself as buying an Ready One!-)
Another Layer of Defense you could add after that all is an Watchers Eye with both Haste Mods for PermaPhasing and Spellblock. But could be Expensive!
Overall i think your Pathing in Tree is not really good but might be wrong. My Profile is open and there you can see how i did.

Trading DpS with Monsters for Loot will ever best Ratio!-)
Sitting in Town, flipping Items until all Gear is biS,
and get fastly bored from running Maps instead of grinding Upgrades is no Resolution!
After the most recent performance against Sirus, I'll be scrapping the char.

Hopefully someone's interested in buying some of the gear (mainly the hat and wand I'd guess).
Last edited by rhapsodieinblue on Jun 7, 2020, 8:02:27 PM
Hey Kay,
I need your advice.

Ive been playing spectres forever now and always HC and my build is quite different because of that but I ran into a problem.
While i was able to literally kill any boss in this game, I struggle A LOT with the awakener, esspecially with the last phase.

I ve been only using slave drivers for the last leagues and I feel like they are just not good for this fight (or minions in general are not good).
I have about 2million sirus DPS, but I feel like with the way SD move, even with deathmark on the boss, their DPS uptime is terrible and they react poorly to the boss moving, esspecially in the last phase their DPS uptime is just so bad.
Also they actually die to the beam, many times in this fight I randomly lose spectres and I cannot resummon them inside the area because they are not in the desecrate table...

So can you recommend a spectre for the awakener fight?
I dont even care about the most "sheet DPS", Im really looking for a spectre who have the most DPS uptime and them not dying would also help a lot.
Should I try melee spectres maybe? (this would mean changing alot since my build is based on ele damage, and my AG has -lightning resist helm and stuff, but maybe worth a try?)
I ve watched your videos about different spectres, but I cant really decide or tell which one is best :(
(nice videos btw tho :D)

I would even be okay to farm a second set of gear just for this fight to switch spectres, but I would need to know its worth it and what actually works best.
This fight is really the only thing in the game I struggle with A LOT :(

Would be cool if you could give me some advice ♥
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
Last edited by KalHirol on Jun 7, 2020, 7:31:10 PM
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KalHirol wrote:
Hey Kay,
I need your advice.

Ive been playing spectres forever now and always HC and my build is quite different because of that but I ran into a problem.
While i was able to literally kill any boss in this game, I struggle A LOT with the awakener, esspecially with the last phase.

I ve been only using slave drivers for the last leagues and I feel like they are just not good for this fight (or minions in general are not good).
I have about 2million sirus DPS, but I feel like with the way SD move, even with deathmark on the boss, their DPS uptime is terrible and they react poorly to the boss moving, esspecially in the last phase their DPS uptime is just so bad.
Also they actually die to the beam, many times in this fight I randomly lose spectres and I cannot resummon them inside the area because they are not in the desecrate table...

So can you recommend a spectre for the awakener fight?
I dont even care about the most "sheet DPS", Im really looking for a spectre who have the most DPS uptime and them not dying would also help a lot.
Should I try melee spectres maybe? (this would mean changing alot since my build is based on ele damage, and my AG has -lightning resist helm and stuff, but maybe worth a try?)
I ve watched your videos about different spectres, but I cant really decide or tell which one is best :(
(nice videos btw tho :D)

I would even be okay to farm a second set of gear just for this fight to switch spectres, but I would need to know its worth it and what actually works best.
This fight is really the only thing in the game I struggle with A LOT :(

Would be cool if you could give me some advice ♥


THIS ^^

This is exactly the reason that I switched to Redemption Sentries. Since the nerf to spectre levels this league, Slave Drivers are horrible for the fights against Uber Elder and Sirus - they just die way too easily.

So personally I switched to Redemption Sentries and I've never looked back. The ONLY downside is switching gems for the major bosses (not map bosses, those die easily), but that literally just takes 3 secs and isn't much of a problem. RS do a little bit less DPS than Slave Drivers, but not that much. But their HP is 4.5x as much as slave drivers, so they never die!

The gear stays exactly the same, only the gems change. Change Wrath to Hatred, and drop Zealotry if you were using that. If you were using conductivity, switch to Elemental Weakness (it's better than frostbite IMO).
You can see what gems are needed in the "Recommended Spectres" section of the guide.

Hope this helps! Seriously, what you described was EXACTLY my problem with Slave Drivers, so now Redemption Sentries are my new favorite spectre. :)
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wasabexx wrote:
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KalHirol wrote:
Hey Kay,
I need your advice.

Ive been playing spectres forever now and always HC and my build is quite different because of that but I ran into a problem.
While i was able to literally kill any boss in this game, I struggle A LOT with the awakener, esspecially with the last phase.

I ve been only using slave drivers
Spoiler
for the last leagues and I feel like they are just not good for this fight (or minions in general are not good).
I have about 2million sirus DPS, but I feel like with the way SD move, even with deathmark on the boss, their DPS uptime is terrible and they react poorly to the boss moving, esspecially in the last phase their DPS uptime is just so bad.
Also they actually die to the beam, many times in this fight I randomly lose spectres and I cannot resummon them inside the area because they are not in the desecrate table...

So can you recommend a spectre for the awakener fight?
I dont even care about the most "sheet DPS", Im really looking for a spectre who have the most DPS uptime and them not dying would also help a lot.
Should I try melee spectres maybe? (this would mean changing alot since my build is based on ele damage, and my AG has -lightning resist helm and stuff, but maybe worth a try?)
I ve watched your videos about different spectres, but I cant really decide or tell which one is best :(
(nice videos btw tho :D)

I would even be okay to farm a second set of gear just for this fight to switch spectres, but I would need to know its worth it and what actually works best.
This fight is really the only thing in the game I struggle with A LOT :(

Would be cool if you could give me some advice ♥


THIS ^^

This is exactly the reason that I switched to Redemption Sentries.
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Since the nerf to spectre levels this league, Slave Drivers are horrible for the fights against Uber Elder and Sirus - they just die way too easily.

So personally I switched to Redemption Sentries and I've never looked back. The ONLY downside is switching gems for the major bosses (not map bosses, those die easily), but that literally just takes 3 secs and isn't much of a problem. RS do a little bit less DPS than Slave Drivers, but not that much. But their HP is 4.5x as much as slave drivers, so they never die!

The gear stays exactly the same, only the gems change. Change Wrath to Hatred, and drop Zealotry if you were using that. If you were using conductivity, switch to Elemental Weakness (it's better than frostbite IMO).
You can see what gems are needed in the "Recommended Spectres" section of the guide.

Hope this helps! Seriously, what you described was EXACTLY my problem with Slave Drivers, so now Redemption Sentries are my new favorite spectre. :)


Redemption Sentries are a must, not only for HP but also for freezing lot of monsters, which is another layer of defense, very appreciable for HC.

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wasabexx wrote:
If you were using conductivity, switch to Elemental Weakness (it's better than frostbite IMO).

Why ?
They have the same Base Duration and radius, but at level 20 "Elemental Weakness" provide -39% res where "Frostbite" provide -44% cold res, and "Frostbite" add 14% chance to freeze enemies.

"Elemental Weakness" is only valuable if you change from one element to another (ex : leveling with Slave Driver and changing to Redemption Sentries when affordable).

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wasabexx wrote:
If you were using conductivity, switch to Elemental Weakness (it's better than frostbite IMO).

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Why ?
They have the same Base Duration and radius, but at level 20 "Elemental Weakness" provide -39% res where "Frostbite" provide -44% cold res, and "Frostbite" add 14% chance to freeze enemies.

"Elemental Weakness" is only valuable if you change from one element to another (ex : leveling with Slave Driver and changing to Redemption Sentries when affordable).



Actually, a 20/20 Elemental Weakness also provides -44% res (because of the gem quality bonus), so that part is the same. I will admit that the extra chance to freeze could be very valuable while mapping, but how often do you curse enemies while mapping? I guess it depends on your playstyle and spectre power, but I just run through maps and my spectres kill everything so fast, there is no need/time to curse mobs. The only time I use curse is on bosses, but the have high enough HP to avoid being frozen anyways. And on end-game bosses I also switch to Elemental Focus gem for the extra DPS, so again, no freezing there.

So for me, I found that Elemental Weakness is better to use because it works with all spectres throughout the leveling process and never needs to be changed, while still providing the exact same damage increase.
Last edited by wasabexx on Jun 8, 2020, 9:11:17 AM
Hi Kay,

I wanted to suggest a different setup for the 1-Cluster build. For Slave Drivers it gives the same DPS, but you gain 2 passives. For Redemption Sentries/Knights it gives better DPS and you gain 2 passives. Those passives can be used for either better DPS or more life or whatever. Also, the cluster jewels are MUCH cheaper, only a few chaos each.

This is only good for the 1-cluster build, it loses DPS against the 2-Cluster build. The cluster setups rely on 2 things to boost DPS - increased Aura Effect from Vengeful Commander, and increase Critical strike/multiplier. But with only 1 cluster, you just don't get enough Critical Strike / Multiplier to make a big difference. Especially with RS as their base Crit is only 5% (Slave Drivers base crit is 6% so they are slightly better). If you go with 2 cluster setup, then the critical stacks enough to make a huge difference and that is definitely the route to go. However, if you are only using 1 cluster, there is a better setup.

Instead of going critical, we instead boost the aura effect even higher. For this, we can use a 8-passive Large Cluster Jewel with 2 jewel sockets, Overshock, Vengeful commander, and ANY other 3rd notable. The last notable will be a suffix so it will be positioned at the end of the cluster and we won't allocate it. So this is how we gain 2 extra passive skills. In other words, on an 8-passive large jewel, we only allocate 5 passives instead of 7.

For the medium cluster jewels, we use a 4-5 passive Medium Cluster Jewell with 1 jewel socket, Vengeful commander, and First Among Equals.

This setup will boost DPS, give 2 extra passives, and costs a LOT less.

One thing to note is that the notable "Overshock" DOES boost the shock effect from your skitterbots (it shows 54% boost to shock effect in tooltip). So the shock effect is effectively 23.85% (15% x 1.54). This will have to be manually changed in PoB.

If you want to see an example of this, you can look at my character here:

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/wasabexx/characters (WasabeMinion)

https://pastebin.com/G1XKcfsd

Hope this gives another idea if anyone prefers the 1-cluster setup.
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wasabexx wrote:
Hi Kay,

I wanted to suggest a different setup for the 1-Cluster build. For Slave Drivers it gives the same DPS, but you gain 2 passives. For Redemption Sentries/Knights it gives better DPS and you gain 2 passives. Those passives can be used for either better DPS or more life or whatever. Also, the cluster jewels are MUCH cheaper, only a few chaos each.

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This is only good for the 1-cluster build, it loses DPS against the 2-Cluster build. The cluster setups rely on 2 things to boost DPS - increased Aura Effect from Vengeful Commander, and increase Critical strike/multiplier. But with only 1 cluster, you just don't get enough Critical Strike / Multiplier to make a big difference. Especially with RS as their base Crit is only 5% (Slave Drivers base crit is 6% so they are slightly better). If you go with 2 cluster setup, then the critical stacks enough to make a huge difference and that is definitely the route to go. However, if you are only using 1 cluster, there is a better setup.

Instead of going critical, we instead boost the aura effect even higher. For this, we can use a 8-passive Large Cluster Jewel with 2 jewel sockets, Overshock, Vengeful commander, and ANY other 3rd notable. The last notable will be a suffix so it will be positioned at the end of the cluster and we won't allocate it. So this is how we gain 2 extra passive skills. In other words, on an 8-passive large jewel, we only allocate 5 passives instead of 7.

For the medium cluster jewels, we use a 4-5 passive Medium Cluster Jewell with 1 jewel socket, Vengeful commander, and First Among Equals.

This setup will boost DPS, give 2 extra passives, and costs a LOT less.

One thing to note is that the notable "Overshock" DOES boost the shock effect from your skitterbots (it shows 54% boost to shock effect in tooltip). So the shock effect is effectively 23.85% (15% x 1.54). This will have to be manually changed in PoB.

If you want to see an example of this, you can look at my character here:

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/wasabexx/characters (WasabeMinion)

https://pastebin.com/G1XKcfsd

Hope this gives another idea if anyone prefers the 1-cluster setup.


Interesting idea! I think those cluster jewels will be a lot cheaper than my version.

I made a slight different version of yours. It has a bit more DPS, more life, less ES (no mom) https://pastebin.com/xWMvtk7X

The plan for 3.11 is no MOM because taking big hit = 0 es = can't flame dash/dash out of trouble!


By the way, the single cluster plan (not cheap build):
RS has 2.75M DPS (no vaal haste), 98k life, 11k leech, 2k regen
Player has 7.6k life & 711es (no MOM). VMS. endurance changes from enduring composure, 49/10 block (with rumi's, no bone offering).

I'm waiting for patch notes before I share builds. Might be a big change.
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Last edited by kayella on Jun 8, 2020, 2:42:08 PM
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PatGniak wrote:

Why ?
They have the same Base Duration and radius, but at level 20 "Elemental Weakness" provide -39% res where "Frostbite" provide -44% cold res, and "Frostbite" add 14% chance to freeze enemies.

"Elemental Weakness" is only valuable if you change from one element to another (ex : leveling with Slave Driver and changing to Redemption Sentries when affordable).



20/20 Ele Weakness = -44%
20/20 Frostbite/Flammability/Conductivity = -44%

You are right. The specialised curses are better for their element because of extra things like freeze chance or shock chance. But you can't use Ele focus.

So, you might have to use Hypothermia (39% more) instead of Ele Focus (49% more). But maybe it's OK. Just need a hit of about 1M to minimum freeze a boss.

I recommend Ele Weakness because it's easy to swap spectres if you want and you can keep the same curse.
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