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so I'm trying to figure out what Elemental army does in support for AG/Zombies. The guide says it adds damage but I don't see how? I see how it adds defense with the elemental resistances. I don't see how it could add exposure since both AG and zombies do physical damage? Am I missing something here?

In PoB selecting or deselecting the gem does nothing for spectre damage.

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ElectroHarmonix wrote:

so I'm trying to figure out what Elemental army does in support for AG/Zombies. The guide says it adds damage but I don't see how? I see how it adds defense with the elemental resistances. I don't see how it could add exposure since both AG and zombies do physical damage? Am I missing something here?

Both AG and zombies do elemental damage with Wrath or Hatred aura.

Lovely guide, good job and thanks for the info.

I am sure this has been asked in previous pages but since there are so many pages I figured id ask again. Could anyone tell me what spectres to get starting from act 3 moving forward and when to change for different ones in later acts. I am leveling this char to learn for when Harvest launches and I just got spectre gem but not sure what spectres to get starting out.

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Helanra wrote:

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kayella wrote:

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Helanra wrote:

I die so many times... Can someone look at my Char Asra_Delirium and told me what i do wrong? I Play with RS. My AG is dead, so i Play with Raise Zombi and Stone Golem. In my Shield i change to cwtd, Bone Offering and Immortal Call.

Try the new tree. It is more efficient for S&S. It has more over life and life recovery is mor effective.

Double cluster: https://pastebin.com/AhWK94sT
Single cluster: https://pastebin.com/SiGDQyCS

Thanks a lot Kay! But the code will not work in POB Fork. Error 302. Do you have another one?

Any chance we could get those pob's without the error 302 (extra added spectres)?

Thanks again!

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Dkbballer1 wrote:

I am sure this has been asked in previous pages but since there are so many pages I figured id ask again. Could anyone tell me what spectres to get starting from act 3 moving forward and when to change for different ones in later acts. I am leveling this char to learn for when Harvest launches and I just got spectre gem but not sure what spectres to get starting out.

What I personally do is I get the gem and start leveling it up at Act 3, but still using zombies and skeletons until Act 5.
Then I get Slave Drive as spectres at Control Block IIRC and that's when I start using spectres.
So basically I don't use any spectres until Act 5.

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PatGniak wrote:

Both AG and zombies do elemental damage with Wrath or Hatred aura.

Ah. So I take it PoB doesn't pick up on that. I'll have to manually adjust in the config the elemental damage of the type down by -10 then?

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tenw30d wrote:

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Helanra wrote:

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kayella wrote:

Try the new tree. It is more efficient for S&S. It has more over life and life recovery is mor effective.

Double cluster: https://pastebin.com/AhWK94sT
Single cluster: https://pastebin.com/SiGDQyCS

Thanks a lot Kay! But the code will not work in POB Fork. Error 302. Do you have another one?

Any chance we could get those pob's without the error 302 (extra added spectres)?

Thanks again!

PoB are level 95. I think it's easy to reach this level. Level 100 is usually too difficult.

Some corrections to this post. Original mistake is with line. Thanks to @Shmoodude to point them out and for DPS numbers!

Sorry forgot to reply! I tested these, so they will work.

Double cluster: https://pastebin.com/bpQWRTJ6
Doubl cluster: https://pastebin.com/UuEiFY8f
Single cluster: https://pastebin.com/D71npGB1
No cluster: https://pastebin.com/sLRF8M35

Spider Damage:

No Cluster: 96k / 8.0k life / +8% block
Single Cluster: 151k / 6.6k life (+57% vs none)
Double Cluster: 171k / 6.5k life (+13% vs single)

Spectre Damage:
No Cluster: 453k
Single Cluster: 839k (+85% vs none)
Double Cluster: 1147k (+37% vs single)


Double cluster and single cluster are about the same damage and hp (150k per spider / 6.7k life).

Both cluster build have cold-blooded killer + Cinderswall for life recovery per kill (3-5%).

No cluster only has Cinderswallow Urn for life recovery (1-3%).

These might become the actual build for 3.11?. It doesn't look like Harvest will have big powercreep items. But GGG said there will be changes to passive tree - just hope it's adding keystones and not changing pathing.

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Dkbballer1 wrote:

I am sure this has been asked in previous pages but since there are so many pages I figured id ask again. Could anyone tell me what spectres to get starting from act 3 moving forward and when to change for different ones in later acts. I am leveling this char to learn for when Harvest launches and I just got spectre gem but not sure what spectres to get starting out.

Is it your first time to play spectres?

I recommend:

Act 3 Battlefront - Flame Sentinel
Act 5 Control Blocks - Slave Driver

That will take you to maps.

Early spectres are a little weak (low life), so you will probably need to resummon them when they die. After second lab, they become powerful and will carry you to maps.

When you do maps, you can keep Slave Driver or change. Slave Driver is a good all round general spectre. Other spectres are specialist or need special gear to be good.

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ElectroHarmonix wrote:

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PatGniak wrote:

Both AG and zombies do elemental damage with Wrath or Hatred aura.

Ah. So I take it PoB doesn't pick up on that. I'll have to manually adjust in the config the elemental damage of the type down by -10 then?

You are right.

If you look at calcs, it will show AG/SG/Zombie with light or cold damage. But if you link Ele Army, there is no change in DPS. So you have to add -10% by yourself.