[3.9] Pure Phys Skeletons & Friends Necromancer — Beginner/SSF/Budget Build

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Niistokeppi wrote:
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Naggash wrote:


Also, you have 350k dps per skelly, i have 1.1mil. What does it mean for a boss like Sirus? You skip a lot of mechanics.



Can u link pob? u barely have 500k per skele.



https://pastebin.com/MEBMMqwx
Spoiler




Yes i lied sorry, i had dread banner and pride active at the same time in PoB. I'm using Pride for bosses (elder/shaper/sirus) as you can and need to stay close to them to dodge beams and other attacks, and dread banner for faster map clears.

Also, i'm using forked PoB, so you can tinker skitterbots shock%, because base shock is way highter in normal pob, than it should be. Same with Impale DPS, which you can see in forked pob.


As to Vendetta, honestly fuck off. You act like you need GODLY 23025 mirror gear to kill T16 boss, and if someone is killing him with 5ex gear - lier and without proof its not possible. Really, fuck off. Learn mechanics and basic stuff and then come here again.
Hi, Im kinda new to poe, but this league got very lucky, and have spare 40exalts to spend on this build, how would the high end gear look like? Are awakened gems worth it?
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Naggash wrote:
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Niistokeppi wrote:
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Naggash wrote:


Also, you have 350k dps per skelly, i have 1.1mil. What does it mean for a boss like Sirus? You skip a lot of mechanics.



Can u link pob? u barely have 500k per skele.



https://pastebin.com/MEBMMqwx
Spoiler




Yes i lied sorry, i had dread banner and pride active at the same time in PoB. I'm using Pride for bosses (elder/shaper/sirus) as you can and need to stay close to them to dodge beams and other attacks, and dread banner for faster map clears.

Also, i'm using forked PoB, so you can tinker skitterbots shock%, because base shock is way highter in normal pob, than it should be. Same with Impale DPS, which you can see in forked pob.


As to Vendetta, honestly fuck off. You act like you need GODLY 23025 mirror gear to kill T16 boss, and if someone is killing him with 5ex gear - lier and without proof its not possible. Really, fuck off. Learn mechanics and basic stuff and then come here again.


Wow Pride looks really nice I was tempted to throw one in an Essence Worm earlier and give that a try.

Where are you getting the Shock from? One of the Spectres?
Last edited by Lightmgl on Dec 27, 2019, 8:58:56 AM
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Lightmgl wrote:

Where are you getting the Shock from? One of the Spectres?


https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Summon_Skitterbots

Base shock is 15% + up to 20% increased effect if you level gem, so up to 18% and its working for bosses. Bots never die, very high movement speed and agressive. Its great for both clearing and boss.

BUT trade off is 35% reserved mana.
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Naggash wrote:
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Lightmgl wrote:

Where are you getting the Shock from? One of the Spectres?


https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Summon_Skitterbots

Base shock is 15% + up to 20% increased effect if you level gem, so up to 18% and its working for bosses. Bots never die, very high movement speed and agressive. Its great for both clearing and boss.

BUT trade off is 35% reserved mana.


Ahhh Skiterbots. Yeah thats a lot of mana pool if you stack it with Pride.

Thats one of the reasons I enjoy this build though as you can really tune the DPS/Tankiness of it very easily.
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Vendetta wrote:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea_D5UU2ZLA&feature=youtu.be



I cannot watch that video...It's filmed on a 486.


Fair enough the video was really choppy but it's proof that you can kill Sirus with 'alright' gear. If you want a cost total of everything I spent here it is:

Helmet: 10c
Amulet: 12c
Chest: 80c
Convoking Wand: 70c
Convoking Wand 2: 80c
Boots: 3c

Anything else I didn't mention I found it so I'm not including it in the total which is 2.12 exalts (assuming a ratio of 1 ex:120c) The price of 6L rare's decreases over time so you can find most of the items here probably cheaper. You just need to learn the mechanics of the fight. You don't need a second build to learn the fight if you are having trouble staying alive maybe sacrificing some damage and getting more life will be more helpful to you. I personally didn't need to swap into shield charge/fortify/faster attacks but I did use a shield until I felt more comfortable with his attacks and then swapped back to double wands. Everything I did in the video is do-able. I just learned how to play around his mechanics and whether you like it or not if you don't learn these 'mechanics' you say that don't exist you probably wont be able to kill him even with godly gear.
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Naggash wrote:
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Niistokeppi wrote:
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Naggash wrote:


Also, you have 350k dps per skelly, i have 1.1mil. What does it mean for a boss like Sirus? You skip a lot of mechanics.



Can u link pob? u barely have 500k per skele.



https://pastebin.com/MEBMMqwx
Spoiler




Yes i lied sorry, i had dread banner and pride active at the same time in PoB. I'm using Pride for bosses (elder/shaper/sirus) as you can and need to stay close to them to dodge beams and other attacks, and dread banner for faster map clears.

Also, i'm using forked PoB, so you can tinker skitterbots shock%, because base shock is way highter in normal pob, than it should be. Same with Impale DPS, which you can see in forked pob.


As to Vendetta, honestly fuck off. You act like you need GODLY 23025 mirror gear to kill T16 boss, and if someone is killing him with 5ex gear - lier and without proof its not possible. Really, fuck off. Learn mechanics and basic stuff and then come here again.


Are you skipping Sirus's third phase on Lv.8 Awakening?
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Deost wrote:


Are you skipping Sirus's third phase on Lv.8 Awakening?


It depends if i die during the fight or not. If everything goes well, you should have vaal summon army ready for p3/4 and his last phase is skippable, he isn't casting his cage mechanic (3 exits) and big beam. Thats on lvl8 yes. I'll try to make a video tonight, need to spawn him first.
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Naggash wrote:


As to Vendetta, honestly fuck off. You act like you need GODLY 23025 mirror gear to kill T16 boss, and if someone is killing him with 5ex gear - lier and without proof its not possible. Really, fuck off. Learn mechanics and basic stuff and then come here again.


Nope , I am not acting like that. I just know you are lying. It's just basic instinct. Since with -40 chaos resistance , more life, another layer of defense and more es / mana I die in less than a second in a cloud ( no 23000 mirror gear), you come in here waltzing and saying that you have -50 chaos resistance , no MoM less mana and little bit more life , and you say you did it without a problem. So the mechanics for the fight are pretty simple, and now , unless you don't touch anything, which I find quite impossible ( seeing even streamers that have thousands of kills touch sometimes the edge of the cloud), you are pretty much lying .

I don't argue the DPS of course you can skip parts of fights with higher dps since offense is a good defense.

You don't have to be rude for being caught with a lie.
Never invite Vorana, Last To Fall at a beer party.
Last edited by Vendetta on Dec 27, 2019, 11:28:35 AM
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Naggash wrote:
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Deost wrote:


Are you skipping Sirus's third phase on Lv.8 Awakening?


It depends if i die during the fight or not. If everything goes well, you should have vaal summon army ready for p3/4 and his last phase is skippable, he isn't casting his cage mechanic (3 exits) and big beam. Thats on lvl8 yes. I'll try to make a video tonight, need to spawn him first.


Sounds good. In your build why didn't you opt for 2 +1 to minion wands? Is +1 to minion/+1 to spell a better setup than two +1 to minion?

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